Smash the fash
I literally don’t care if songs or artists perpetuating bigotry get “censored”, the world is better without them.
Just listen to something else and quit whining.
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Drew@lemmy.one 1 year ago
I don’t know this song. I won’t listen to this song. I don’t care about it.
But it becomes a slippery slope when censorship gets blown up like this. I’d rather it all be on there and I can choose to not listen to it than for them to tell me what I’m allowed to listen to on their platform. Are they going to start banning Bloodhound gang or Eminem for homophobia and violence? What about Rotting Christ for anti religion? Dying Fetus?
It should stay on the platforms and collect dust instead of being shared by articles. I probably would have never even heard of this, but now I’m worried that some of the music I listen to will be collateral.
Smash the fash
I literally don’t care if songs or artists perpetuating bigotry get “censored”, the world is better without them.
Just listen to something else and quit whining.
Just listen to something else and quit whining.
This is actually step one, and the only step.
That is quite literally what he’s doing, he’s listening to something else.
You don’t care until “bigotry” means what you think it means and not what someone else thinks, or until the same principle is pushed by other groups who happen to not care if “songs or artists perpetuating ____ get censored”.
There is already a problem with monopoly in terms of which music is available, I can’t wait to have those companies decide even more which songs can be published based on totally arbitrary principles and without any accountability. I am pretty sure that articles about this trash song will have the consequences of generaring more listens than if this was just ignored. I, for once, would have never known this song existed without this article, and now I am fairly curious to go check the lyrics to make a better idea about the article itself. Straisand effect and all…
100%. These people cannot return to being “acceptable” to exist. Purge them from society and force them to retreat to the dark corners from which they’ve been hiding since the end of WWII.
There’s plenty of really offensive music out there, and you can’t put one group on a pedestal and say ‘but these guys you can’t ridicule.’ … Except…
Thinking about it, the offensive music is towards people with bat-shit crazy belief systems etc, rather than criticising people for what they are. I don’t think I would be ok with racist music for example, or music that targets… idk, bald people, because it’s something they can’t change.
So actually, I agree, ban the song. Let’s go back to ridiculing Christians, Scientologists, Muslims, Hindus, communists, etc because those are all belief systems that people can change.
Simple, all it takes is to take the Book of Wrong Ideas, which is notoriously objective and shared across the world.
They are already censoring the word nigger out of 20 year old rap songs retroactively. I have a couple songs saved that used to not be censored, but are censored now. Nate Dogg’s “Get up” comes to mind.
That combined with the fact that their app straight up doesn’t work when offline anymore has me looking for alternatives.
Any suggestions? Youtube music is out of the question, I ain’t giving money to google.
Opening the post in the browser does show the word, so it’s lemmy.world that censors it for you.
It’s the N word.
It’s a frequent occurrence in Reddit that I read a typed out “Letter-word”, not knowing what swear/slur as the same letter could mean multiple different words in my regional English dialect.
What frustrates me is that words that could harm require effort to ensure the context is clear and respectful, people who just swap it with a Letter-word don’t care enough to treat what they are saying with importance.
I’ve previously asked what a comments letter-word was referring to as I couldn’t even find it via Google, the responses where downvotes and being told I should know what it means.
Hurtful words either shouldn’t be said at all, or if being referred to need to be treated with delicacy and respect as if their harm matters, saying them while not saying them is the laziest and most disrespectful way of handling that.
“Hurtful words either shouldn’t be said at all”
Where is this though? As a queer person, I’m not removing words from my vocabulary which refer to people like myself. Just as I wouldn’t tell POC to not use the n-word.
The slur filter on lemmy world is very limited. There is an f-word and an n-word. And the reason I added it to the slur-filter was because we had spam accounts posting PAGES full of these words. And even when that stopped we kept those two words in our slur-filter. As the times they would be used “academically” would be far less than their use as an insult.
Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, it makes sense from a moderation standpoint. I know there’s been a lot of spam with slurs. I think it does hurt real conversations and I don’t like it but it’s not like it’s unjustified. It makes sense.
Tidal is a great option. They even give the best pay per stream for artists compared to Spotify or even Apple music
No it doesn’t. Last I heard Spotify isn’t a branch of government. Until such time as we nationalize them. They’re free to deplatform anyone and everyone they want within reason.
The problem is, they’re only out for money and have no moral compass. Combine that with the burgeoning fascism problem we have in the US for instance. You get this. There’s money to be made marketing and appealing to bigots and their ilk. And they’re gonna keep doing it till it costs them. Expect no meaningful action.
Dance with the Devil by Immortal Technique
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I mean, I agree with your sentiment, but I do feel as if we’re walking into a trap here.
Whenever there’s a push to remove bigoted or otherwise harmful content it’s always “censorship”.
When conservatives want to remove content they find objectionable they are “exercising their free speech” in calling for the removal.
So, no, I’m not going to pretend I’m some freeze peach champion when that rhetoric is exclusively used to harm me and the people I care about.
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
On the flip side, I don’t see how I can protest book banning and simultaneously call for song banning.
Yes, conservatives are hypocritical and morally bankrupt. That doesn’t mean I should be, too.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
The fact that you are referring to this as calling for song banning means you have bought into their frame lock stock and barrel.
Stop doing their work for them.
Supermariofan67@programming.dev 1 year ago
What is it then?