Yeah. I feel like a lot of the people here like the idea of WFH, but don’t understand that it is really easy to become a cog in a manager’s Gantt chart and “doing your job” can mean wildly different things to your manager.
deadlyduplicate@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I recently left a WFH only company. The environment was toxic and there was definitely some insecurity on the part of management regarding worker productivity. There was a much larger emphasis on constantly showing to management what you were working on and proving you were using your work day productively.
It was a culture shift I didn’t adapt well to and left.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s not exclusive to WFH.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
But it can become a lot worse with WFH, especially as the level of communication goes down. And if you hear the complaints from a lot of people here, they are apparently working with managers that don’t do that.
insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t see any evidence for this.
lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If it’s salaried and your work is done and you aren’t missing meetings and calls and whatnot then who cares if you’re using your day ‘productively’? You must be if your work was done with no major issues. Who cares if it took you 6 hours or 8?
DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Anyone wanting to get the most out of the departement/team. If you only need 75% of your expected working hours to complete your assigned workload, its completely reasonable that they know and can give you 25% more work to fill out the rest of your work day.
lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 8 months ago
And if someone else takes 8 hours to do the same work that I did in 6, so they assign me 25% more, it’s reasonable for me to expect to be paid 25% more too.
IHawkMike@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Of course not, silly. They’ll just promote the 8 hour person to something they’re more suited for.
DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Yes of course you should be compensated based on ability and performance.
el_bhm@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The juice bag has a quarter left.
DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
That’s an incredibly flawed analogy…
Why throw away a juice bag, that you bought and paid for with the agreed sum for the full amount, without drinking all the contents?
Were not talking employers draining your life for more time than you agreed to give them. If X amount of money for Y hours is what you agreed on, why do you feel entitled to not pay your part of the deal in full?
Kiosade@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
If I had a boss like that, you bet your ass I would purposely wait to turn things in later and look busy until then.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I can see this being an issue in an agile development environment.
Work gets assigned points based on various factors. You learn how many points a team can do every X weeks (all teams will be different, each team tries to hone in on what they can do and how they number it)
If you complete all your work, great! If you don’t, that’s okay too, but if you complete early, you’re still supposed to take more work.
If you can never finish it all, you figure out why and adjust the total points you can take each period. If you always have left over time, you figure out why and increase the points you can take. If it’s a one off reason, don’t change anything.
But if “I did all my assigned work” is the answer to then slacking off, that’s not what it’s supposed to be. All tickets done doesn’t mean don’t do more.
Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Don’t know why you got downvotes, that’s the correct answer to the question.
I guess people don’t like that managers are supposed to maximize efficiency and took it out on you for saying as much.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
It sounds like the company was being proactive in making sure that people did their jobs and were being productive. Not everything is daily production; some projects can take weeks or months.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Thats what project management is for, especially tools like Agile.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
But project management isn’t just a one way system, a project manager needs input from those working under them.
It sounds like there is an issue with having that discussion.