And whats wrong in building infrastructure by themselves? Diging up watter, clay, making what ever things civilization done thousands years? Other (e.g. north countries) people do it even then they have to grow their own food, fight the cold and bad seasond in parallel. Here we have all food, minimum shelter from elements, even medicine already provided. And yet, where is the progress? Whats wrong in that whole support process then?
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gmtom@lemmy.world 11 months agoSo you want to make a scrab material slum? With no infrastructure like running water or sewage?
4L3moNemo@programming.dev 11 months ago
gmtom@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You think you could build a functioning, sanitary sewer without any training or education
uncertainty@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
If you can get people to leave the pile alone long enough, composting is safe and yields a useful end product humanurehandbook.com
4L3moNemo@programming.dev 11 months ago
You think you can read, I thought you could. ;) Because I specifically mentioned quot: taken than the leadership is provided …
and that implies all kinds of leadership. Helping to organize, management, help of qualified engineers, consultations and their services, overseers in the field, and/or training specialists. It’s not that it is a rocket science, and we are not talking about skyscrapers. Any body can be a builder after some explaining, if we are talking about single store simple hause with running watter, sewer. And anybody can dig and lay pipes. Hell, they already had ramp, lever, clay brics, stone blocs, ropes, paper, maths, and even a wheel there, more than a 5 thausand years ago. More than 2 thousands years ago they already had there a water wheel, pipes and other water technologies. It is not that a rocket science is needed to develop the enviroment. It can be needed if we want to do it fast, labour and economicaly efective, but that is not a case here. We are talking about supported people – it’s not that they use their time efectively now or will lose something by taking two hours per day to improve their enviroment themselves.
dustyData@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I suppose anything is possible if you take human dignity out of the equation.
4L3moNemo@programming.dev 11 months ago
Do they chose to do not work for the good of themselves and not to inprove their enviroment, because of their dignity? Do “feeders” and supporters think they improve dignity of the feeded ones, by keeping needfull ones dependant with constant support?