Comment on Was thinking about how sometimes a therapist can give bad advice, and if you're not thinking about the situation clearly, how would you know? Clearly...

ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Pandantic@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And how do you feel about that?

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tell me more about this impulse you have to ask about people’s feelings

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m sensing a bit of role confusion in the room. Has this therapist career delusion been negatively affecting your sleep?

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      • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sir, you can take this olanzapine willingly or we can strap you to the chair and forcibly inject you. Which is it going to be? No, you cannot leave.

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• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A therapist once said that the only thing we could actually work on was our own relationship which we formed through the course of therapy. I didn’t really understand what that meant but it worried me since we only talked one hour a week and I was struggling through serious life relationships like family and romantic partners and I never saw how the in-therapy relationship could possibly catch up to those, especially since we didn’t actually do anything together except talk about other people.

  A few months into seeing this therapist, she had barely said a word to me the entire time. I asked “so, I’ve been spending these past weeks and months sort of downloading everything that’s going on. At what point will you start giving me feedback or reacting to what I’m saying?”

  She clicked out her pen and said “oh interesting… do you enter every relationship saying ‘when do I get something?’”

  I’ll never patronize a full blown psychologist again - unless I’m experiencing a legit pathology, not just for processing life. I found them totally useless and way too expensive for just processing life.

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That statement is incredibly laden with judgement and antithetical to the training of any competent therapist. sorry you had that experience

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks. Yeah, fuck her.

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• LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re right, still don’t you think by the questions they ask or the subjects they bring up, some therapists are better or worse? The main thing I’m getting at is like wise Donald Rumsfeld said, there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns - without implementing a team of therapists (who don’t know the other ones exist and with each you bring up the same subjects and anecdotes) you won’t be able to compare them and determine whether you’re getting amazing treatment or criminally negligent advice

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People usually go to therapy for a reason. If you’re 3-4 sessions in and there is no treatment plan with explicit goals to address the reason you’re there, that’s a bad sign. If you’re in therapy for a while and don’t feel like progress is being made, also a sign to address it directly with your therapist or move on to someone else.

    Therapy is not going to be a measurable experience like you want it to be. The literature consistently shows the most common predictor of success in therapy is how well you get along with the therapist. Other evidence-based treatments (eg CBT, DBT, CPT) are geared toward specific symptoms, and not as useful for the “worried well”

    It would also be against most therapists’ ethical codes to treat you without directly communicating and coordinating with your other providers. If they find out you’re in treatment with other therapists at the same time and hiding it, they would probably terminate services.

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    • LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I appreciate the actual information. I had hoped among other things calling Donald Rumsfeld wise would give away that I’m not being entirely serious.

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      • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh, I quote Rumsfeld all the time and just thought we were jibing. Like Donald Rumsfeld always said, “I believe what I said yesterday. I don’t know what I said, but I know what I think and I assume it’s what I said.”

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