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Not sure about this specific pump but this same thing happened in my town several months back and BT was used then too.

When it happened we found out that the pumps at the station in particular (and probably most) have a BT receiver tied to whatever little processor that runs the pump so either a station manager or someone servicing the pumps can access them with the right equipment, make internal adjustments etc.

In the case that happened locally to us. Someone hacked them the same way, then posted to Facebook and other social media sites to come get some free gas, etc.

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abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
All the pumps I’ve seen have a physical key protecting them too. They’re supposed to unlock it in the morning and lock it when staff leave for the night. I’d guess these stations didn’t do that?

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- Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  From everything I know about locks in important places, all pumps probably use the same key. You can probably buy that key online. I know this is true for elevators and those boxes for entering buildings, and Crown Vic police cars (and the taxis they’ve become after being sold), and many other things.
  
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  - DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    those boxes for entering buildings
    
    do you mean doors ?
    
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    Cantankerousnuts@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I wish he meant doors 😂
    
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    Irinir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    He likely means card readers.
    
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    lemming741@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Knox Box maybe
    
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    youstolemyname@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s a lockbox that is mounted near the doors that contains a key to said door or an override used by emergency services such as the fire department.
    
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    Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I can’t think of the term for them, but they have a keypad and other buttons to call in and unlock the door, often along with things for postal and emergency services to get in if required.
    
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  - thoughtorgan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Lol this is not true for crown Vic cop cars at all. I used to own one. They have car keys just like anything else from the era
    
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    Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yes, they do have car keys. They’re all keyed to the same key.
    
    www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1516…
    
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- Erasmus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t know about that part. Just that it was all over the news when it happened here and I later read about the details as to how they did it.
  
  I would have assumed the makers of the pumps would had put into them a little tighter security but then again look at some of these password and other web hacks we routinely see.
  
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  - WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    There’s a convergence of issues. First, and probably foremost, users are idiots. So it has to be able to be operated by a 5 year with a learning disability. Second, implementing security costs money up front. It is cheaper to let the customer deal with the fall out, then do damage control on the cheap, and keep going. Third, users can’t be assed to access things that a 5 year old with learning and physical disabilities and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in one hand can’t access. These are all typical issues stuff is engineered towards. This is why you see this same basic issue crop up over and over again.
    
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