That’s unfortunately a lot of people going by the amount of “fixed” (ie slopppified) art and photos I see going around online.
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red_tomato@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Anyone who thinks DLSS 5 is a good thing doesn’t understand art. It’s just a filter that removes all artistic intention. Like taking someone else’s artwork, paint all over it, and then claim it’s ”better”.
ech@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Morphite88@thelemmy.club 14 hours ago
All those “filters” are preinstalled and pushed on the users. It’s kinda hard to fault them when they push the “make pretty” button, but I do take umbrage when my family members post pictures of “me” online that look like someone else. It’s a weird time to be alive.
ech@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
I can fault them for choosing to push the button and for just accepting that the result is “pretty” without rebuke. For defending the end result against those of us criticizing it. The companies may be responsible for the pushed adoption of this ridiculousness, but people are the ones happily going along with it and actively defending it.
cheat700000007@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Also removes shadows
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Gamers remove shadows all the fucking time by choice. My experience shows that 99% of gamers would willfully and happily play on the lowest settings with a 5090 because big fps matters more then actually getting any fucking value out of the hardware.
cmhe@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
“Better” is in the eye of the beholder. DLSS 5 is optional, as are the shader and texture mods that are available for many games for ages. They both change the look of the game in ways the people creating them didn’t intend. I don’t really care about what the creators of games intended, I want to have fun playing it, and I’m okay with changing/modding the game until I have more fun. That is “better” to me.
DLSS5 probably doesn’t matter to me anyway, since the Nvidia together with their AI business centipedes actually don’t want to sell GPUs to consumers anymore.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
That’s why only studio quality headphones are even worth listening to music on, if you’re not hearing exactly what was intended then it’s shit garbage. Too bad if you’re poor
eyes@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
This is kinda kinda a bad example, it’s more akin to listening to a bad cover of the original song. Also this tech sure as shit isn’t going to run on cheap hardware which makes it even more egregious.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
No, because the original information is still there, it’s just filtered on top. Exactly like how listening to the same audio on different headphones can sound completely different.
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
If you put new information on top of a pixel, the pixel is changed and it is no longer the original information. Your headphones example would be more accurately applied to the visual medium as running custom color profiles, like adjusting saturation and contrast. The original information is there (music waveform or pixel color) but affected by delivery (bass boost or colorblind adjustments).
red_tomato@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Low quality headphones don’t add sounds that doesn’t exist in the original track. The thing with DLSS is that it adds details that doesn’t exist in the original image.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
It sure does take away and distort sounds, to the extent where it can sound very very different.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 11 hours ago
Poor headphones takes something away, but (unless they’re so cheap they pick up static) it won’t add anything to the song. What Nvidia is selling, in terms of audio, is having an AI filter between the song and your headphones that enhances the sound however it sees fit. It might take something away but more often than not it’s just going to add something to it. You want to listen to Bad Bunny but the AI is going to generate English over Spanish because people are more likely to understand what he’s singing about. If you had headphones like that you’d throw them in the trash because they are trash.
red_tomato@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
It takes away sounds, but don’t hallucinate new ones
djdarren@piefed.social 11 hours ago
My Sony MDR-7506 are studio quality reference headphones, and they only cost me £80.
nightlily@leminal.space 11 hours ago
Studio quality headphones tend to be a flat response curve, which is not what professional music producers master for - so no, that’s a poor argument.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
mixing headphones aren’t expensive. industry standard headphones cost less than a lot of consumer grade headphones
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I mean I own a pair of sennheiser HD800, let’s compare audio quality.
But I’m obviously not saying it’s a good argument, I figured the sarcasm was evident, I think the “its not the original intention of the artist” argument is a bad one.
There are plenty of legitimate arguments against DLSS, such as companies not properly optimizing their games because they can just make it “good enough” and tell people to use DLSS. That is obviously bad.
Adjusting literally any of the many possible settings in a game “takes away from the original artistic vision” yet generally we see people complain if certain options to their taste/needs isn’t present.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 hours ago
Adjusting literally any of the possible settings in a gane “takes away from the original artistic vision”
Those settings don’t completely alter what the art looks like. It changes the method in which the math behind the scenes works. Like setting shadows from Ultra to Low doesn’t remove the shadows, it just alters how they are rendered.
Any game with any actual design put into it woild account for these and also be part of the artistic vision and intention.
TalkingFlower@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
[deleted]Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I wasn’t being serious, it’s sarcasm because the “artists origin vision” argument is dumb.
1984@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Like the filters people use on Instagram to make themselves look perfect. All of this is pretty sick but nobody seems to be thinking its a problem.