that’s not a proof at all. it not being usable on your other devices does not mean it is not uploaded. it just means the data is not synced to other devices for this specific purpose. we simply don’t and cannot know whether it is uploaded anywhere.
tyler@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Tell me you don’t understand technology without saying you don’t understand technology. Biometrics don’t leave Apple devices. Proof? Go get an old touch iPhone and set up a fingerprint and then try to use that to log in to a MacBook with Touch ID.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
tyler@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
You are right, it’s not proof! I was waiting for someone like you to say so, so I could point out that this has been tested numerous times by researchers and it does stay on device and is secure, that’s literally the entire point of a TPM.
Jolteon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That is absolutely not proof that apple doesn’t harvest your data. It’s just proof that they don’t sync that data between devices.
iOS is a closed-source black box on proprietary hardware, and there’s absolutely nothing preventing them from just taking that data and not telling anyone. It might not be nearly as invasive as the age verification BS, but it’s definitely not nothing.
tyler@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
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There is something preventing them, they publish their Secure Enclave design and there are plenty of studies showing it doesn’t leave the device. (This is the same for Microsoft too, this isn’t me being nice to apple). I don’t feel the need to explain every minute detail to someone that clearly doesn’t know the first thing about technology though, so a simple comment with “proof” that someone who thinks those kinds of things will easily understand is enough.
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You can educate him without being insulting.
deleted@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or maybe better if op could spend 5 minutes to do their research before posting inaccurate claims.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
tbf the same could be said about tyler
deleted@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Probably he or she is simplifying the explanation because shared biometrics login doesn’t necessarily indicate that biometrics is stored locally.
But it’s true that no cloud nor third party involved in storing biometrics information.
tyler@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
You are right, sorry about that. Just tired of people spreading bullshit and then by the time the truth gets said the lies have gone halfway around the world. People need to verify stuff before posting their every thought and whim.
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I understand, thanks for being a sport. And I agree with you, we are overwhelmed with rumors, lies, and propaganda all the time so it’s hard to stick to facts. In the case of op here, they were just trying to share an idea they had, and I’ve been in their position many times when I sounded like an ignorant schmuck when I just wanted to express a thought i had.