I got a free, going to be recycled, dell with 8gb of ram from work. I threw in an nvme and installed Linux. It’s not the lightest Linux install, but it is Arch, so definitely on the lighter side. I idle at under 1gb and under normal use don’t break 2. I do some coding which uses more but nothing super crazy. MacOS probably uses a little more ram, but it’s not Windows. I’d wager than the vast majority of people don’t come close to using all of that RAM, and power users are going to get hardware for the task, and this isn’t it.
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just2look@lemmy.zip 11 hours agoMy phone has more RAM than that. I can’t imagine running a computer with that little memory considering how poorly optimized software tends to be at this point.
I’m not sure what the overhead for Mac OS is, but that has to be basically rock bottom to be even considered functional unless you’re running one of the lighter Linux builds.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
just2look@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Under 1GB on a modern build is pretty light. I run CachyOS and I’m pretty sure I idle at significantly more than that. Though I honestly haven’t checked, and don’t really want to close everything out to find out haha. I do know I’m currently using more than 8GB and not doing anything super heavy, but I do have multiple programs running. And multitasking is always going to be a killer for a system with low RAM limits. There is a reason my laptop has 32 and my desktop has 64.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I did just check and I was wrong. I idle at 1.6GB. I may have been thinking of a single app I had open when I looked the other day. I did just open Firefox and it took about a gig. Opening about 20 tabs and navigating to different sites did Bum it up to about 5gb. So yea, 8 is on the lower end, but it’s usable and I’d bet most people would be fine. Throw in things like swap and high speed storage, I feel most people wouldn’t notice. Definitely not enough for high usage though.
I miss when 4gb was good enough.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
I run CachyOS with Gnome and it idles at just under 2GB
henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 hours ago
Just to play devil’s advocate: a smartphone is definitely a computer and has no trouble competing with older laptop CPUs in benchmarks. I see this as a difference without a distinction beyond form factor.
8GB is 💯 barely serviceable. I see this is a product for a casual user only, with excellent build quality.
pseudonaut@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I mean… of course it’s for the causal users what kind of observation is that?
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 3 hours ago
What the fuck are you doing on a phone that you need 8 GIGABYTES of RAM? Damn son!
ripcord@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I have a 2013 MBP that shipped with 8GB, the minimum amount they came with.
Of course it also is upgradable. Which I did, to 16GB. A decade ago.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
My 2013 MBP is still at 8GB. With memory compression, I rarely run into issues unless I’m doing VMs/Docker or something really heavy.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
I mean, at its heart, Mac OS is a heavily re-tooled fork of the BSD platform, so it’s not inconceivable that it’s light enough to run on 8G. I doubt it would run well on 8G, but it could do it.
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
My M1 MacBook Air idles at 1.03GB, my XPS 13 running Gnome on Vanilla OS idles 2.4GB
thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
GNOME is bloated, try antiX instead.
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I’m not looking for anything lighter
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
It runs fine, unless you load up on chrome tabs, or try to run pro apps. Itdoes basic photo editing and admin apps and phone holiday video editing just fine for average users. I have a lot of clients with 8GB M1 machines.
just2look@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
I know it was lighter than windows the last time I used Mac, but that has been quite a few years now. Hopefully it is a decent machine. Computing just keeps getting more expensive, so having more budget options is definitely good as long as they are reasonably functional.