I see. They are douchebags because people observed they are douchebags. That makes sense, if you are a fucking moron.
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Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks agoYeah they’re being courted by the far right because the far right aren’t calling them idiots. Really not that hard to grasp.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
People who are treated like outcasts behave like outcasts.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Its not anyone else’s job to fix you.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
It is not any one individual’s responsibility to fix any other particular individual, true.
Rather, it is the community’s responsibility to care for the community. All of the community.
If you start declaring some members of the community to be undeserving of care, then you are no better than the fascists.
Narauko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There’s an old saying: “the child who does not receive the warmth of the village will burn it down to feel warm.”
nodiratime@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The absolute audacity to vilify people/put them on blast constantly (bonus points for single mothers and having worse raising outcomes than single dads e.g.) and then act all high and mightly and demanding they “pull themselves up by their boostraps”.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
If you didn’t think I was already a moron why would you call me one? Are you really incapable of seeing how difficult it is for me to engage constructively with your argument while you are constantly interweaving it with personal attacks? I couldn’t ask for a better example of how calling people dumb makes it hard for them to engage with their ideas. Again, no wonder young men with no experience are being entrapped by the far right.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Yes, this is a stupid post because it was made by a person that was called a moron, not because it was made by a person that is actually a moron.
Cypher@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Yes, this is a stupid post
I gotta respect the self report
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
They’re not even being courted by the “far right” - they’re just being pushed away from the left, by the left.
Whoever would have thought that calling people names, attacking them, etc simply for existing and daring to not bow to your ideology is not the way to make friends and get people on your side? Incredible.
njm1314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The far right are calling them idiots which is the weird thing. You ever pay attention to how those influencers speak to them? They basically neg these kids.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Good point, I would be interested in learning more about that. I feel like it may be because the insult is always a precursor to their actual message. For example “you’re a loser with no girlfriend, but it’s because women only respect alpha males. Here’s how you become one…” It uses their insecurity to sell them misogyny and right wing ideology. I think structurally different to and mentally easier to accept than how a man might be insulted from a left wing perspective. Example: “you’re a loser with no girlfriend because you’re an incel who hates women.”
Objectively the left wing one is closer to the truth and heeding its advice would be more likely to socialise them and put them on the path of finding love and companionship, but it’s pretty obvious to see which of the two a young inexperienced and insecure man would be more likely to follow.
Ilandar@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I think your intuition is 100% right, there. It’s always easier to hear “it’s not your fault” and they know this.