en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Fuk_Court_fire
They probably just built it way, way, way, worse than these Hong Kong highrises.
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Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 hours agoThe conspiracy was that the US government waged war against multiple countries that had nothing to do with fucking 9/11.
Speaking of building 7 specifically , no building has ever collapsed this way from fire and no building will ever again. It was not significantly damaged from the towers and the official explanation was fire. The fact that you say otherwise is disinformation and shows you are full of shit
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
No WTC 7 haf some really weird architecture. Otherwise it would have just burned out without collapsing.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 44 minutes ago
No?
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Oh wow, I guess this conspiracy has gone on for about 80 years now because they must have faked all the newsreel footage of buildings collapsing from fire bombings during the blitz. There’s plenty of examples of buildings collapsing to the fire, also has ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, having a Boeing 767 crash into the side of the building might have caused just a bit of damage.
9/11 conspiracy theorists are so desperate to prove that 9/11 was a masterful plan by the government that only they have figured out that they can’t even use Occam’s razor.
Why did building seven collapse? Because I had two of the world’s tallest buildings collapsed right next to it. It’s not that hard.
Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams? Well it’s a miracle then that the plane hit the only floors in the building with no flammable material inside. Everyone in there was just butt naked on asbestos floors. And there was definitely no gas line going up to the top floor for the restaurant there. Also, can we just talk about the elephant in the room, the fact that getting hit by a 767 going full tilt would cause a lot of damage?
“Oh but what about the 1945 empire state crash?” A B-25 lost in the fog is a lot slower and a lot smaller than a 767. I can think of several plane crashes where a plane crashes into a building, only four of them involved a controlled flight into the building at full tilt. Three of them are on 9/11, the fourth one was a guy copying 9/11 in a Cessna.
“Oh but what about the puffs of smoke that were clearly demolition rounds?” Yeah if only there was a reason that puffs of dust and air would pop out the windows like that, maybe something like the floors coming down very quickly?
But do you want to hear a couple of conspiracy theories?
Both of those conspiracy theories are just as enraging and dare I even say even more likely then the US government orchestrating 911 like a villain in a marvel movie. If you think the US government is hyper competent and in control of everything, let me remind you that during the biggest crisis of this decade, the president of the United States on live camera suggested that people should inject themselves of bleach to kill covid.
Sometimes you just need to take Occam’s razor to a conspiracy theory. And if you think that a plane crashing into something couldn’t cause structural damage severe enough to cause a building to collapse, go look up the aftermath of Lockerbie, or any plane crash featuring buildings.
And if you’re going to look at me right in the eye and tell me that having two of the world’s biggest buildings collapse right next to a building would not cause structural damage to said building, I think you need to touch grass because that’s Hobbyless behaviour.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
You can’t just casually drop a historic confession like that on us, Goddamn.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Hey, you just spread misinformation. Don’t get your panties in a twist.
You implied that WTC 7 collapsed because because buildings fell into it. That is not what officially happened. It may have led to a fire, but it was the fire that supposedly compromised the steel so the entire building collapsed at once.
I can’t help that you did this. You could just correct yourself.
As I stated the real conspiracy is that we attacked two nations that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Please save me your one man quest to disprove truthers. I have studied all this for years so I can definitely say there is some truth to just about every conspiracy theory. That is what makes them believable.
Truthers represent a wide range of beliefs and many are experts in their field who pointed out many of the holes in official explanations. Not that they were right, but it is always important to challenge official US explanations.
The B52 was about 1/20th of the weight of a 767. The World Trade Centers were actually designed to withstand the impact of a 707. The 767 is still about 4 times heavier. I am sure people don’t realize the massive weight differences at play.
The reason most Truthers are obsessed with the three buildings collapsing in this way is because it never happened before. In fact, even partial collapses are pretty rare for steal building and complete collapses from fire are pretty unheard of let alone three in one day.
Of course the unique design of the towers along with the effects of a pancake collapse are given as a good explanation of why the towers fell in this way. WT7 collapse was also related to it its unique structure of a heavy penthouse and a substructure that interfered with the support columns and required transfer trusses.
Elements of the government were aware of 9/11. The CIA and FBI were informed multiple times and failed to connect the dots so to speak as detailed in the 9/11 commission report. Intelligence is hard yo. Without a smoking gun like an order to ignore information you could probably just chalk it up to the reality of information overload.
Funny story, I knew an Iraqi National who surrendered during Desert Storm and was brought to the US. The government was training him how to fly commercial airliners even though his formal training was in the Iraqi police force as a weapons instructor. Strange coincidence for sure.
All this energy you spend is of course misplaced. It is a clever distraction to what the real conspiracies such as WMD in Iraq and Al-Qaeda in Iran. The US government certainly lied about these things to promote an illegal war of aggression.