Windows 7 was arguably the last OS they ever made.
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lime@feddit.nu 14 hours ago
remember when windows 10 was supposed to be the last os they ever made
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
This line of thought goes all the way back to NT, and even then IBM would have some comments.
DOS was the last one they built, and they made a really decent GUI for it before they switched to NT.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
And they still haven’t even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment.
I don’t outright hate PowerShell but it’s clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I find PS pretty great. Probably the best improvement to Windows since going 32-bit.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Windows 10 arguably became passable for stability about 3 years after release… but you still had to cut out the advertising bloat, spyware, and all which undermined any gains of stability because that shit was just fucking annoying.
lime@feddit.nu 13 hours ago
wasn’t advertised as such though
Zacryon@feddit.org 10 hours ago
It was certainly the last one that I voluntarily used.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
No, because that was a shitty headline that mischaracterized an employee’s one-off statement and was then held up as gospel truth by the internet.
lime@feddit.nu 6 hours ago
it was from a press conference where they said they were done with version numbers and that windows 10 would basically be supported forever. that’s not mischaracterisation
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
It was from a low-level spokesperson’s statement at a press junket that the (then-current) internal versioning system was being abandoned.
It’s absolutely a mischaracterization.
ugjka@lemmy.ugjka.net 14 hours ago
Yes, like Arch but for windows
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
No, that is not what they said. Stop spreading this propaganda.
lime@feddit.nu 6 hours ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
Absolutely, it was at the height of the “software as a service” phase and they were doing rolling updates for the Windows Insider program.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Dude, they’re still struggling with Windows 11 adoption because of the unreasonable requirements of a TPM 2.0 capable motherboard/CPU… and they are asking people to upgrade their CPUs again?
They only started seeing real growth in Windows 11 numbers as of January of this year. Windows 11 finally hit 73% last month while Windows 10 is down to 27%. Linux continues to gain marketshare, and there’s no telling if the reason that Win 11 is finally gaining marketshare is from people dumping Windows entirely for other options. Mac and Chromebook shares have been growing as well! It took them four and a half years from release to break 50% Win 11 adoption and they want to release Win 12 on year five while forcing more upgrades when half the people who got in just upgraded?
This on top of trade wars, actual wars, and an AI arms race that is making buying PC parts obscenely overpriced… and they think people will fucking go for this?
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Even businesses won’t want to upgrade this soon after many only just making upgrades to meet Windows 11 requirements just recently… because businesses are also facing the same increased costs due to the above issues!
lime@feddit.nu 13 hours ago
god i hope they fuck this up
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
They’re already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined.
lime@feddit.nu 13 hours ago
vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not.
The_v@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The OS desktop environment has stagnated over the past 15 years.
Many businesses have transitioned from a 3-4 year rotation on desktops/laptops to every 5-6 years today. Hell my work laptop is 6 years old and I don’t forsee replacing it for another 3-4 years. For work functions there is no significant improvement to upgrading more frequently today.
So if they launched W12 next year, widespread adoption will likely not occur until 2032-2033 or at the Win11 EOL whichever comes first.
The developers today are working on a system that will not become mainstream for 8+ years. They want to launch in the next 2 years knowing it will not be adopted for years.
They ignoring the reality of today’s market and building to meet the latest fads. It’s Windows 8 all over again.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Yeah, most peoples needs have largely plateaued IMO.