Comment on It would be so interesting if humans didn't have a gender assigned at birth and could choose who they want to be.

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• definitely_AI@feddit.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is it possible that any of them ever got it wrong?

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  • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The amount of people who detransition is incredibly small compared to the overall trans population, and even then most people detransition because society didn’t accept them and battered them down until they gave up.

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    • definitely_AI@feddit.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I take that as a yes, people can be wrong about themselves and who they are.

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      • Janx@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Wow you don’t sound like you have a prejudiced opinion at all!

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      • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        People can be wrong about literally anything. That is not an excuse to say “fuck everyone else in this group.”

        If you extend this argument, we shouldn’t believe what anyone tells us about absolutely anything because they might have made a mistake. Truly a great basis for human society.

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  • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Wrong” is probably not the best term for it. People’s understanding of their own identity can evolve over time, but their own assessment of their sense of self will always be the most accurate barometer to go by. Yes, some people detransition, but as others have stated they’re a small minority and ultimately that’s their decision to make whether it’s due to a change in how they identify or pressure from external forces.

    But to the original commenter’s point, we should just allow people to be the masters of their own identity and meet them where they are at any given point. If that were the case, the idea of getting it “wrong” wouldn’t be a big deal at all, they could simply give us an update and the world keeps turning.

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    • definitely_AI@feddit.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      their own assessment of their sense of self will always be the most accurate barometer to go by.

      Does this claim extend to people who are schizophrenic?

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      • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s a complete separate discussion. We’re talking about gender dysphoria, not schizophrenia. I hope you understand why people assume you’re a troll, because what is even the point of bringing that up in this context?

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      • WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        love the transphobia to ableism pipeline. Not a great look.

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• vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  only 1% trans,

  That’s the problem. You forgot that the left wants to pump this number to the levels of 10-20% before 2050

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  • RudeOnTuesdays@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think you have your numbers confused. The right wants to reduce trans numbers to 0%. The left doesn’t care about increasing numbers, only treating trans people like human beings.

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    • definitely_AI@feddit.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Everyone should be treated with kindness and respect regardless of who they are, what they look like, where they are from, and what they believe.

      That does not mean that everyone has to accept whatever beliefs anybody else personally has. Everyone is free to believe what they want. That means that it is both fine to believe something about oneself, and fine not to believe what someone else believes about themselves.

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      • adhd_traco@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Then can you, please, extend your respect and kindness to not indulge the actual transphobic misinformation there? As well as not stoking the flames over a single downvote? This shit is derailing the fun thread.

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      • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I guess you’d be fine if everyone treated you as a lizard and required you to live and act like a lizard. It’s all good because you know you’re not, right?

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    • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why the fuck this joke about left wanting to turns everyone trans is not yet co-opted by the left

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  • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    they do?

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  • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If that means more people have a voice, then I’m all for it.

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