Mass surveillance for advertising seems marginally more benign than mass surveillance by one’s own government, personally. Though admittedly both are bad.
InternetPerson@lemmings.world 2 days ago
You should also stop using Google products for similar reasons.
qualia@lemmy.world 1 day ago
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The mission statement is irrelevant when the outcome is the same. Google has data a hostile power wants and goes it to them whenever they want.
qualia@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sure but our representatives should be held to a higher standard.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
That requires voters willing to do that. That is the fault of the voter.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 day ago
Mass surveillance for advertising is just gross. I remember a comedian making a joke saying that ‘anyone here in advertising? Please kill yourself!’ Also just because someone got all the info on your for advertising, it doesn’t mean the government won’t get access to it, because right now 4th amendment and other traditional restrictions on government overreach are moot if all they need to do is buy the data from some broker on you. This has actually happened and it was upheld in court.
The precedent for stuff like that is older than you think, but also not what you think. For example some serial killers and serial bank robbers were caught because some homeless person searched through their trash looking for something they can use, eat, or sell (all of these things are legal to do BTW) and they discover things like body parts, firearms, or brand new clothes that also fit the clothes that said criminal was wearing when they did their crimes, and said homeless people reported this to the police.
But I am quite confident that someone who just so happens to stumble upon something vs. a company watching your every move are two very different things.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 day ago
I just got grapheneOS on my new phone (it is a google pixel 10, but it is the one that can handle that…) I needed a client to use my gmail which will probably be the last thing I get rid of.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Are they shipping Graphene for the 10 now?
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 day ago
I tried to do it in the more advanced way, but I had never done anything like that before and I consider myself moderately technical. I used a simpler bootloader to get Frankel (the latest grapheneOS for Pixel 10. I have a basic Pixel 10, not the pro or fold) installed. I was apprehensive, but it seemed to go on fine. I am able to sandbox any google shit I do need (and it isn’t much) and I was able to get whatsapp with my old shit on it because my family is still using it for reasons. I am using K-9 as an email client for my gmail, which does help (or so I was told) limit the amount of information google gets on my usage when I check my email.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Are you replying to me?
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 day ago
I am using k-9 mail as a client.
wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If it’s the sending and receiving part of email, I’ve switched to purelymail (you could pick another) and put it behind my custom domain name. Because behind a custom domain, that’s the last time you’ll have to update your contacts as it won’t be dependent on which email provider you choose.
Searching through decades of old emails I do still use the Gmail account, but I just have to get off my butt to self host a local SMTP server for that.
Kissaki@feddit.org 1 day ago
Did they make contracts with them?
InternetPerson@lemmings.world 1 day ago
They have multiple contracts in the military sector.
For example: datacenterdynamics.com/…/google-wins-200m-contrac…
blankwire@lemmy.world 1 day ago
wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Wait I’m confused. Sam Altman is OpenAI right? And he says the DoW agreed to work with them but with the same prohibitions that Anthropic wanted?
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Or have never used their crap, ever.
yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
No, I don’t think this is correct. There was a time during which Google did great things. Their search engine allowed millions if not billions to gain access to knowledge. They had a positive impact on a lot of FOSS projects. What they were is not what they are.
gnutrino@programming.dev 1 day ago
The tell was getting rid of “don’t be evil” as their motto. Even for a corporation that was a little on the nose.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
the bad things started earlier
digital_digger@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Agreed. They even refused to extend their services to China because of censure. But that was before, after change of CEO, enshittification started.