Comment on Trans people in Kansas are being ordered to surrender their drivers licenses

• Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Doesn’t matter they’d still have to prove it in court and that is going to eat huge parts of their budget and insane amounts of manpower diverted from actually running the state.

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  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except in the real world, you still lose your job after getting arrested and charged.

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    • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’d have to be arrested for that first. Are you in the habit of being arrested on a day to say basis?

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      • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You don’t think that Kansas cops will just profile anyone who looks even vaguely trans or GNC and demand to see ID?

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      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you high right now?

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  • daychilde@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    they’d still have to prove it in cour

    Bold assumption.

    I’d like for you to be right and I hope you are, but I don’t think you are.

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    • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      www.kslegislature.gov/li_2020/…/008_002_0059_k/

      Such review shall be in accordance with the Kansas judicial review act. In the case of review of an order of suspension under K.S.A. 8-1001 et seq., and amendments thereto, or of an order of disqualification under subsection (a)(1)(D) of K.S.A. 8-2,142, and amendments thereto, the petition for review shall be filed within 14 days after the effective date of the order and venue of the action for review is the county where the administrative proceeding was held or the county where the person was arrested. In all other cases, the time for filing the petition is as provided by K.S.A. 77-613, and amendments thereto, and venue is the county where the licensee resides. The action for review shall be by trial de novo to the court. The court shall take testimony, examine the facts of the case and determine whether the petitioner is entitled to driving privileges or whether the petitioner’s driving privileges are subject to suspension, cancellation or revocation under the provisions of this act.

      It’s a trial, they don’t have a choice unless they change the way suspensions and disqualifications work and in the mean time there’s probably going to be a group of lawyers working to get an injunction for overbredth and likely for speedy trial because of the volume of appeals.

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      • Tiger666@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Rule of law in the USA is almost dead.

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      • daychilde@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        they don’t have a choice

        Please forgive me for quoting myself from elsewhere:

        The problem is that you respect and believe in words. The people currently in charge could give two fucks. Ultimately, words only have the power that we give them, so when those in charge ignore the Constitution, then the Contitution has no power.

        [snip]

        In the same way, there are rules and decorum and traditions in politics and revolve around the Constution and various bodies of legislature, et cetera. And so there’s nothing that ACTUALLY forces anyone to follow any of that except voluntary compliance or physical threat because policing bodies enforce things.

        This is why the rich are free, largely, from most crimes. They aren’t enforced. And this is how our democracy crumbled. The Constitution hasn’t been repealed. It doesn’t have to be. It is simply ignored. Worse, those who claim to follow it shit on it and ignore it and throw it out.

        So I’m afraid they do have a choice in the same way they have ignored due process and habeas corpus, as one tiny example.

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