Comment on 'I had to RUN to my Mac mini like I was defusing a bomb': OpenClaw AI chose to 'speedrun' deleting Meta AI safety director's inbox due to a 'rookie error'

LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But it’s adding it to a text file that eats up a ton of tokens and routinely gets ignored!

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• BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That MEMORY. md file won’t do shit if the AI doesn’t read it.

  I give it 2 hours before it stops reading it until prompted again.

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• bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

  I beg to differ. An apology means that you feel bad about harm inflicted upon others. To prove the point: You apologize when you’re late due to circumstances that are outside of your control. Or when you accidentally bump into someone on the bus when the driver slams the break.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are two kinds of apologies.

    Customary, and Genuine.

    They’re describing a genuine apology.

    You’re describing a customary apology.

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    • PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “‘I’m sorry’ and ‘I apologize’ mean the same thing, except when you’re at a funeral” - Demetri Martin

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• frigge@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

  yeah enough humans don’t know that as well unfortunately. But yeah obviously LLMs don’t understand anything. That’s not how they work

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• Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They behave exactly a child does when a parent forces an apology.

  They have the words they’re expect to say so they do say them but they don’t undersranr why, they definitely don’t mean it and they lack the restrain to not doing whatever they apologized for over and over.

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• prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Like an abusive relationship

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• daychilde@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

  At best it might not make the same mistake again if that memory is in the current context. But more likely: It will not remember.

  Although latest Gemini in particular has much more room for “remembering” things, still.

  But “I made a mistake”? It is not self-aware in any way shape or form to the degree where “I made a mistake” carries any real meaning.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But… but… it generates text that seems like a human wrote it!

    Therefore it must be a human!

    … A whole lot of humans are failing a reverse turing test, just, fundamentally.

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• atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  it is made to copy how humans write and speak

  the AI had been scored for how good it learned from humans to sound sorry

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• fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If anything its context includes that it makes mistakes now and details about them. The mostly output is to create the same mistakes again

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• cv_octavio@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It doesn’t even want to ignore the rules. It doesn’t want anything. Just some math didn’t work out and a thing happened that wasn’t supposed to. It will absolutely happen again if it maths that way again too.

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• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”

  If only some people meant it that way too!

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