If you really see support of genocide and zionism in what I said, I really don’t know what I could say to convince you. It seems you’re not truly listening to me and trying to understand. I can just hope eventually you will see that there is no point to us fighting, and I wish you well.
“In Germany after National Socialism we have all been brainwashed to support genocide and Zioism and have to legally support our government sending weapons to a genocide because we like the previous one so much. Also we have a Gestapo which enforces this just like how we did in WW2”.
I’m basically sure I’ll be condemned as a zionist now, or whatever, go ahead.
Literally putting on the classic Nazi disclaimer
Can you explain why Germans have learned absolutely nothing from the Holocaust?
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
The German government is sending 30% the weapons to mass murder Palestinians in a concentration camp. This denial of full German government support for genocide is why nobody takes Germans seriously when they claim to care about the Holocaust. Take a long hard look at this image and see what you can take away from it
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
If you really see support of genocide and zionism in what I said, I really don’t know what I could say to convince you. It seems you’re not truly listening to me and trying to understand.
Oh no, people are not trying to understand your subtle and nuanced argument of “Palestinian genocide and the Holocaust are different because the Jews never fought back”.
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
You are trying to reduce my argument to one dimension that “sounds” reasonable, while ignoring things like it literally being in the charter of Hamas to destroy all Jewish people in Israel. And you’re going to say it is the prerogative of Palestinians to fight back, and again I would completely agree with you. It just doesn’t make much sense to argue with you, so I’m going to stop.
agentant@lemmy.ml 55 minutes ago
You mean the outdated charter that has since been replaced to clarify opposition to the settler colonial state, rather than Jews as a whole?
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
And there it is the Zionist blood libel against Palestinians and repeat of German genocide propaganda.
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
You are trying to reduce my argument to one dimension that “sounds” reasonable, while ignoring things like it literally being in the charter of Hamas to destroy all Jewish people in Israel.
How surprising, you’re doing Hasbara. The charter was irrelevant soon after it was written, Hamas changed many time very quickly throughout its history, and the charter you’re referring to was in fact literally replaced with a new one in 2017. You are a zionist.
And you’re going to say it is the prerogative of Palestinians to fight back, and again I would completely agree with you.
No, you wouldn’t and you didn’t. The trick of “fighting back is their right but they’re doing it wrong” isn’t fooling anyone.
DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
it literally being in the charter of Hamas to destroy all Jewish people in Israel
You mean the 1988 one written 50 years ago that immediately became irrelevant just a few years after it was written? That is not a good argument, please.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter
While the 1988 Hamas Charter had been widely criticized for its antisemitism, the 2017 document removed the antisemitic language and stated that Hamas’ fight was not with Jews as such because of their religion but with the "Zionist project."When asked, Hamas leaders explained that “The original charter has now become a historical document and part of an earlier stage in our evolution. It will remain in the movement’s bookshelf as a record of our past.”
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
America and Western Europe were more interested in fighting the cold war, so they rehabilitated most of the nazis and put them in charge of everything.
This is only one small example, the practice was widespread in West German as well as NATO generally.