Comment on Elder Scrolls 6 Is Powered By New Version Of Creation Engine

• lime@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  2015? that codebase started in morrowind. and say what you want about that game but it is not a looker. it launched the same year as metroid prime.

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I didn’t think Skyrim was too outclassed compared to its peers in 2011, given that it was so much larger and doing so much more than a lot of them under the hood. But Fallout 4 came out alongside The Witcher 3, and the difference between the two was night and day. Then of course Baldur’s Gate 3 next to Starfield, and I have to scratch my head wondering what the hell Bethesda is doing still running this tech stack.

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    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Todd Howard doesn’t know how to make games any other way.

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not entirely out of question that they’ll use Unreal for graphics while retaining Gamebryo for gameplay. That’s kinda how the Oblivion remaster works. And might be best of both worlds if they manage to make Unreal not suck in terms of performance

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think graphics are pretty low on my list of priorities for how those games need to modernize. Starfield looks pretty alright in sheer fidelity, but the faces don’t animate well, the conversation system is dated even compared to The Outer Worlds doing basically the same thing, and the engine seems (for some reason) incapable of putting together a proper cut-scene.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I fucking hope not. Unreals’s graphics engine looks terrible

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bugs, bugs, always the same bugs.

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  • mcforest@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Morrowind? Gamebryo is the continuation of the NetImmerse engine. Development started in 1997 with the first game released in 1999.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah morrowind used netimmerse, first time bethesda used it.

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  • NachBarcelona@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think Gamebryo (neé NetImmerse) is even a bit older than Morrowind.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah it’s not bethesda’s engine. but my point was about where the codebase for the creation engine comes from, and that’s the morrowind code.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And Unreal Engine started on 1995. This argument always shows people’s ignorance of software development. When the first pieces of the engine were built is not why it’s shitty. It’s because they haven’t invested money into it where it matters. (Unreal Engine also has some serious issues. It just looks prettier.)

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i mean, a 23 year old codebase is bound to have some tech debt.

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      • Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Very probably yes, but it will also have a lot of mature functions that are stable and work well after 20+ years of development.

        A mature codebase is often a double edged sword, it’s not always a good to just throw away all that progress.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They rebuild the engine to be 64-bit (instead of 32-bit) for Fallout 4, and that version is what Skyrim Special Edition is running on

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  • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Morrowind is definitely a looker, that art style is something Beth has never been able to approach again.

    But hard agree on the VFX.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah it does have style, but it’s pretty low fidelity compared to its contemporaries. the scope is also a lot larger though.

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