I shouldn’t have to scroll this far for a bit of sanity on God’s Lemmy. 😭
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queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Harris chose to lose the most winnable election in history because Democrats know they can punish voters for being disloyal simply by allowing Republicans to win. If you demand too much from Democrats they will throw the election. It’s essentially a hostage situation, you must give unconditional support to the Good Cop or the Bad Cop will beat you to death. You don’t want the Bad Cop, do you?
If we don’t abolish this system we’re all going to die.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 days ago
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
No matter how it might appear, the DNC didn’t fucking throw the election. Jesus Christ, who upvotes this shit?
queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
The only other reasonable explanation is that they’re too stupid and don’t know how to win elections.
If you think that the Democratic party are stupid, you are delusional.
cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
They refuse to campaign on popular policies even when it increases their chances of losing because it doing otherwise would anger their donors. They know it might cause them to lose. It’s purposeful. What else do you call that?
chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Ableist Liberal poster named “prole” trying to lecture leftists about politics. Prefect. No notes.
wpb@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I take issue with your use of the adjective “good” in “good cop”.
Paddzr@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I doubt it. Trump got those votes regardless of what Harris could’ve done.
People want to be openly racist and homophobic.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
The reason Harris lost is because people stayed home, not because they voted for Trump or third parties.
Paddzr@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Would it have made a difference and out weighed the racism votes? After brexiit, I’ll n never underestimate the power of hate.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
By the numbers, yes. Trump’s turnout increased by 1 million, Democrats decreased by 2 million, and the loss of Democrat turnout was what pushed Trump over the edge. He still only got 49.9% of the vote, after all.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Dems already shat the bed in 2022, handing Republicans a narrow majority in the House because they refused to pursue Congressional criminal misconduct from the prior administration or do anything about state voter disenfranchisement or gerrymandering while they controlled the federal government. Nevermind the clown car of corporate toadies and unloveable hacks they larded up with corporate donations.
Little reason to believe they’d do better in 2024, given that Biden made “supporting a genocide” and “rolling back COVID benefits” his central platforms for the next two years.
How is an election “winnable” when your party is married to policies everyone hates? It’s like complaining about Mitt Romney losing in 2012, when Obama was underwater. The GOP trotted out an absolutely odious corporate turd - a man who literally penned the editorial “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” four years earlier - and married him to a nepo-baby who hates social security as VP. Of course they fucking lost.
You don’t get to talk about an election being “winnable” if you insist sandbagging the primaries to run loser candidates in the general.
2024 was Trump’s election to lose. He capitalized on people’s disgust with liberals. He leaned heavily on TPUSA, QAnon, and other effective social media campaigns to juice MAGA support. He promised to bail out TikTok, the only company that wasn’t run by an American oligarch, while Biden was threatening to run them out of business. He rallied his base voters while liberals embarked upon the worst internal voter suppression campaign since 1968. And he did it all as fascist tendencies in the US were cresting.
Harris wasn’t running a winnable campaign. She was struggling (badly) to bail out a floundering Biden debacle.
Everyone dies eventually. But this government seems intent on accelerating things.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Trump only got 49.9% of the vote. He has never been popular, even by capitalizing on disgust with liberals. It really wasn’t his election to lose, he’s not actually a strong candidate. He won by playing against an opponent that doesn’t want to win.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Idk about you, but 49.9% of the vote sounds very popular to me.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Far be it from me to argue against the US being a backwards shithole racist country, because it obviously is and death to Amerikkka, but I don’t like the narrative that he had some kind of mandate to govern because he is so popular. He really doesn’t. He’s started without a majority and it’s been down hill ever since.
By the by, that’s just of the people who bothered to vote. If we counted non-voters, he got 32%
monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 3 days ago
And the fact is that you tell people this, verifiable fact, and they get mad and stick fingers in their ears. They really want to lose.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I remember debates on Reddit. I kept pointing out that the official inflation figures fail to measure the pain people were figuring. But I just got downvoted to Hell by a bunch of troglodytes mindlessly parroting the CPI figures, as if that was the only thing that matters.
There is a severe strain of Orwellian magical thinking among liberals. Speak no evil, see no evil, hear no evil. Ignore all bad news and try to give your way to victory.