Comment on Trigger warning - This Epstein stuff is making me sick...

• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m fucken sorry, who has the only known example of a global paedophile ring implicating nearly all of its leaders? This is fucking unprecendented. No need to take it personally unless you are a capitalist.

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Most organized crime in every nation practices sex trafficking, rape, prostitution and slavery of one kind or another. From the Yakuza to the Mexican cartels. It is unprecedented, it’s simply very visible. If you think Putin and his oligarchs or the Saudi royals, for example, don’t have similar organized immorality, then you’re naive.

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    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      None of those are global, and if the saudis are anywhere they’re probably also in the files which would just make that part of the same capitalist carnal club. I don’t see President Xi, or many non-US aligned leaders in here. Its not you or I, why are you so offended?

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      • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The Catholic Church and organized crime are both global…if you don’t even know that, why am I bothering with you?

        Saudis are perfectly capable of maintaining their own network as they do their systems of slavery. Epstein was certainly not the only network like this, either.

        You’re just sound like an anti West troll, spreading propaganda.

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Competing networks, territorial splits. It’s visible in the files that this is a global thing and we see only the tip of an iceberg with one example group

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Good points. However a big difference here is that this organized debauchery and perversions is weaponized to blackmail the most powerful countries in the world into supporting fascists in a small little country to do unspeakable things, that is also exporting that fascism to those home countries.

      So the blackmail angle, to ultimately destroy the liberal democracies that these countries are built on, makes it a little different.

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      • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Blackmail definitely isn’t unique to this situation. The US has specific provisions for conflicts of interest to safeguard against this kind of blackmail because they know it happens. MAGA simply ignore it all and was allowed to. Power finds a way and blackmail is as old as politics.

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    • novibe@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The files do mention Putin, as being a deterrent to their operations in Russia. And they hated Xi and Castro. Seems like SOME leaders and powerful people are not sex trafficking pedos 🤷‍♂️

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      • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Or they prevented competition. Their resistance is not necessarily a sign of being better. Putin’s soldiers in Ukraine are doing horrific things, his KGB does horrific things, Russian Mercs in Africa do horrific things. Well never know the exact details so there’s no way to know.

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The thing is those are criminals.

      This is a whole country’s government.

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      • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Of criminals.

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• Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s… Also bad? Why are you bringing that up?

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because the claim seemed to be that the west, and capitalism, is somehow unique in its capacity for doing very shitty things. It is not. Horribleness is a human thing found everywhere humans are and is not caused by capitalism or Western societies.

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