It’s too bad the open source community couldn’t find some programmers to help them make an alternative.
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 3 weeks ago
Please, pretty please, be the spark that will stop OSS projects from hosting their “support forums” on Discord.
stressballs@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 3 weeks ago
As long as the alternative is not another chat app that is not indexable by search engines. Forums fill the role pretty well, I don’t understand why devs would use Discord in the first place.
other_cat@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Fluxer apparently has that on their roadmap. https://blog.fluxer.app/roadmap-2026/
As part of #3, I’d also like to add the ability to publish forums to the open web. That way, people can discover, archive, and access discussions without logging in.
Emopunker@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Sounds great. I hope it has video chat and screenshare or will implement it soon.
craigers@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As someone who has spent the last 2+ years testing revolt/stoat, matrix with element, and teamspeak, desperately searching for any viable discord alternative, I’m very interested in this. Where did you come across it? I tried to create an account but stuck pulsing on a loading screen.
itsmistermoon@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I saw earlier that Zulip already has that option, but I still would much prefer a regular old forum.
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
As long as the alternative is not another chat app that is not indexable by search engines. F
For me this is the biggest probem about Discord and Discord alternatives why not just use Lemmy what’s the problem with Lemmy?
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Also not very searchable on engines, especially due to fediverse server name differences, you can’t !lemmy because many of the communities don’t have Lemmy in their domain or titles or however that works. At least I have only gotten Lemmy results for like 25% of my searches.
stressballs@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Discord took the place of IRC. Chatlogs for IRC were rarely indexed by most channel admins until after about 2010 when projects like freenode hosted all the open source projects for the whole web.
It was purchased by some right wing billionaire and now it is no longer.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
But in a success story for open source software, the entire community migrated from freenode to libera.chat in like 2 days.
The way to defeat enshittification is by disallowing lock-in.
Emopunker@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
There is stoat.chat (formerly Revolt). But you wont find much help on Lemmy or Mastodon. A lot of people on the fediverse have an aversion to Discord because when they try it, they have difficulty with it like a senior citizen with a smartphone. Even though Matrix and Discord arent similar, people on the fediverse will still try to recommend you Matrix, because they think Discord is just another messenger and not like having a forum, teamspeak, jitsi and other stuff in one program. And even if you explain it like that, they will be like “but then you can just use a forum, matrix, jitsi and a screenshare program separately” or something like that.
stressballs@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Lol. I can vouch for this.
Hell my friends are still Stans for IRC and will literally argue it has everything you need.
in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Open source community always loses to capitalists, because people won’t do the work unless there’s money involved. Otherwise there would be open source alternatives that are better and more popular. What incentive do smart programmers have to help the open source community when they’re better off earning 180k+ per year programming for the financial sector?
stressballs@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Nonsense. Open source built the web. Open source isn’t some new anti fascist trend… What are you smoking?
in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Open source built the web
Yeah and how’s that working out, in the context of the subject of this thread.
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I deployed several docker containers using an image from this one guy. Later when I needed help with an image I realized the support is provided exclusively through a Discord server. To nobody’s surprise the guy is an asshole who shouldn’t interact with users.
TheDingNoiseInToolSongs@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, thank you.
redsand@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
IRC still supports most of the FOSS core.
More modern alternatives include Jitsi, Matrix and Simplex. Mumble also works well for voice.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Every time I see Simplex it reminds me of a virus.
redsand@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
Simplex is the most secure option available with the most resource intense client. I’m a fan, it’s much newer so the code is less mature but they’re comming along well, hitting roadmap targets, listening to the community and auditors.
nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 3 weeks ago
I wish it was only limited to support forums. I’ve seen a Linux kernel driver where the Issues sections was closed and you should go to Discord instead. No thanks.
justsomeguy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s horrible. We already had that stuff figured out. Wiki pages and forums to make information accessible even after 20 minutes have passed. Fuck that development and everyone that was/is pushing for that.
zensanto@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
🤮
Who are the morons that keep making these decisions?
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Several open source developers in this case
foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s people that don’t want to have to maintain things, which I understand. It’s trivial these days to host a forum with a cloud provider, or have a github, but Discord is one click. It’s not the ideal tool, but one click, no payment, and you have a place everyone can talk to each other.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I guess, but even without talking about forums, even a subreddit would at least be publicly accessible and searchable. Using discord is effortless but antagonistic, at least a subresdit would be both effortless and in the service of the public.
Sure, I’d prefer an open source self hosted platform, but I’m hard pressed to find anything worse than discord
ferrule@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is my biggest pet peeve of OSS projects. Someone writes some code and that is where it ends for them. The rest of the infrastructure is so free and so easy that there is no need for dedication to the project.