Do you mind telling the audience what your plan entails for all the Israeli civilians living in Israel, many of whom don’t approve of their government or its actions?
Israel is a genocidal fascist ethnostate and it should be dissolved and their government arrested, tried for crimes against humanity, and executed. This is the absolute bear minimum any human should accept. We should not tolerate these actions.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 days ago
They would become citizens of the state formed after the dissolution of Israel with the same, full rights and protections, as Palestinians. There would no doubt need to be a whole denazification campaign that might take many years, as well as a very comprehensive period of truth and reconciliation.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
So you’re in favor of a one-state solution?
Who do you think will govern that state?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
I’m just simply stating the simple facts that Israel must be dissolved and everyone who had a hand in the genocide must face justice. The actual process of determining the governance etc. should be determined by those who are going to actually live there.
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Israel has fair elections they chose genocidal prime ministers for 78 years
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Israel
doesdid not have fair elections. The ultra-orthodox political elite were extremely privileged in Israel’s elections. Something like 15% of the population was responsible for an 80% share-by-weight of the electoral outcome.This has recently changed, so it’s expected that Israel’s next election (this year) will be more fair, and it’s likely that the ultra-orthodox faction will lose power. However, they know this quite well and are likely to try to use the war in some way to maintain their hold on power. Time will tell.
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If it is not rigged it is fair. Nice deflection from the fact that israelis keep voting for genocidal and pro colonization prime ministers. And since there is a lot of bad actors in lemmy I have to say the obvious, this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 days ago
What do you think should happen to Hamas?
gandhibobandhi@feddit.org 1 day ago
Sounds weird to claim that the side that has regular free elections and guarantees equal rights to all its citizens, who are made up of multiple ethnic groups, is a “fascist ethnostate”, while the other side is an ethnically homogenous one party state run by a government who’s founding charter invokes nazi-era antisemitic conspiracy theories.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
Ah yes, “wild” to claim that the country ran by fascists, actively undertaking a genocide to ethnically cleanse arabs and muslims from their holy land is a fascist ethnostate. Also, it is a well known fact that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens. Their politicians literally call out for purges. Dunno if you’re in denial, just not aware due to the propaganda (totally not your fault if so) or if you’re a zionist spreading lies and misinformation.
gandhibobandhi@feddit.org 1 day ago
So what are Israeli Arab citizens not allowed to do that Jewish ones are? Given that its a “well known fact” they’re second class citizens?
I’ll give you that Smotrich and Ben Gvir are fascists if that’s who you’re referring to but it’s hardly accurate to claim they “run the country”, nor are their views representative of the average Israeli given they get a pretty small percentage of the vote.
Also- nothing I said was a lie or misinformation as far as I’m aware but feel free to point out where you disagree.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
Can you admit that Israel is conducting a genocide?
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wasn’t the usa a democracy when they was murdering vietnameses, afghans and iraqis? Netenyaho said that gazans are amalek which mean israelis should murder all palestinians including infants