because there is a difference between “From the wolga to the rhine germany will be free”, and the settlers being forced back to the west of the Oder.
Luniio@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, ISRAEL WILL BE FREE”
What… You are outraged by this ? Why?
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Israel is a genocidal fascist ethnostate and it should be dissolved and their government arrested, tried for crimes against humanity, and executed. This is the absolute bear minimum any human should accept. We should not tolerate these actions.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Do you mind telling the audience what your plan entails for all the Israeli civilians living in Israel, many of whom don’t approve of their government or its actions?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
They would become citizens of the state formed after the dissolution of Israel with the same, full rights and protections, as Palestinians. There would no doubt need to be a whole denazification campaign that might take many years, as well as a very comprehensive period of truth and reconciliation.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
So you’re in favor of a one-state solution?
Who do you think will govern that state?
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Israel has fair elections they chose genocidal prime ministers for 78 years
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Israel
doesdid not have fair elections. The ultra-orthodox political elite were extremely privileged in Israel’s elections. Something like 15% of the population was responsible for an 80% share-by-weight of the electoral outcome.This has recently changed, so it’s expected that Israel’s next election (this year) will be more fair, and it’s likely that the ultra-orthodox faction will lose power. However, they know this quite well and are likely to try to use the war in some way to maintain their hold on power. Time will tell.
gandhibobandhi@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Sounds weird to claim that the side that has regular free elections and guarantees equal rights to all its citizens, who are made up of multiple ethnic groups, is a “fascist ethnostate”, while the other side is an ethnically homogenous one party state run by a government who’s founding charter invokes nazi-era antisemitic conspiracy theories.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Ah yes, “wild” to claim that the country ran by fascists, actively undertaking a genocide to ethnically cleanse arabs and muslims from their holy land is a fascist ethnostate. Also, it is a well known fact that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens. Their politicians literally call out for purges. Dunno if you’re in denial, just not aware due to the propaganda (totally not your fault if so) or if you’re a zionist spreading lies and misinformation.
gandhibobandhi@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
So what are Israeli Arab citizens not allowed to do that Jewish ones are? Given that its a “well known fact” they’re second class citizens?
I’ll give you that Smotrich and Ben Gvir are fascists if that’s who you’re referring to but it’s hardly accurate to claim they “run the country”, nor are their views representative of the average Israeli given they get a pretty small percentage of the vote.
Also- nothing I said was a lie or misinformation as far as I’m aware but feel free to point out where you disagree.
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wasn’t the usa a democracy when they was murdering vietnameses, afghans and iraqis? Netenyaho said that gazans are amalek which mean israelis should murder all palestinians including infants
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
What do you think should happen to Hamas?