Comment on Neocities founder stuck in chatbot hell after Bing blocked 1.5 million sites

Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• FancyGreg@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  DuckDuckGo users?

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• BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pretty much every other search engine uses as it as their only or supplemental source as do all metasearch engines.

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• grandel@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AFAIK there are only like 4 search engines in the world:

  1. Google
  2. Bing
  3. Yahoo
  4. Yandex

  Virtually every search site uses one or a combination of these.

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  • Yosmonkol@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yahoo uses the bing index, and aside from Google, Bing, and Yandex the only other larger english general search engine with its own index is Mojeek. Seirdy’s blog has more info on this along with reviews of more niche engines, and there is also the search engine map if you want something more visual.

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    • splashgarden@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would love to support Mojeek for its independence, but I tried using it for a while and I could rarely ever get accurate and reliable search results, especially for queries involving specific locations, medical queries, or queries involving non-English languages.

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  • canihasaccount@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Kagi has its own search engine and internal web indexing:

    help.kagi.com/kagi/…/search-sources.html#search-s…

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    • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep, this is what I use.

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  • rozodru@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    pretty much. DDG for example uses a bing-yahoo “alliance thing” (can’t remember what it’s officially called but Microsoft and Yahoo have a sort of partnership in this regard).

    Your options for actual first party search options are literally pretty much the ones you listed. Yandex is russian so not trusting those guys anymore than I trust Google or Microsoft so that just leaves Yahoo which is…yeah.

    Honestly people are just better off using something like SearX or 4Get. they’re all the same except with those two you’re not going to get the AI slop or ads.

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    • SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      my self hosted surprise of last year was a searxng container. i will never go back!!

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hate the bing-yahoo search engine. On DDG, searching for news is absolute garbage.

      Ask it to check latest news like “Donald Trump really make AI videos of Obama as Gorilla” and the News Search found 1 news article and 20 posts from a five years ago. But on Google News, it’s like 50 articles.

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      • rozodru@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yeah I don’t bother with DDG anymore. used to love it but now it’s just hot garbage. Now I just use a 4get instance and for news just use the brutalist report and spike.news

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  • gibandaley@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s a UK search engine called Mojeek that has its own index. I won’t claim it’s results are as good as Google/Bing/Kagi etc but if you want to use an alternative it exists. I typically start all my searches there and then transition to DDG if I can’t find what I’m looking for.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are no Chinese search engines?

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• leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anyone who uses duckduckgo, since that’s where it gets its results from.

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• recursive_recursion@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  1,500 Slot Machines Walk into a Bar: Adventures in Quantity Over Quality

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• RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bing is basically the only search engine that doesn’t actively censor our porn results. Its impossible to find videos for shit on Google even with “safe search” turned off.

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