Comment on Running AI is so expensive that Amazon will probably charge you to use Alexa in future, says outgoing exec

art@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Soundhole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s already here. Anyone can run AI chatbots similar too, but not as intelligent, Chatgpt or Bard.

  Llama.cpp and koboldcpp allow anyone to run models locally, even with only a CPU if there’s no dedicated graphics card available. And there are numerous open source models available.

  Hell, you can even run llama.cpp on Android phones.

  This has all taken place in just the last year or so. In five to ten years, imo, AI will be everywhere and may even replace the need for mobile Internet connections in terms of looking up information.

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, and you can use run a language model like Pygmalion Al locally on koboldcpp and have a naughty AI chat as well. Or non sexual roleplay

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    • Soundhole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Absolutely and there are many, many models that have iterated on and surpassed Pygmalion as well as loads of uncensored models specifically tuned for erotic chat. Steamy role play is one of the driving forces behind the rapid development of the technology on lower powered, local machines.

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      • Chreutz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Never underestimate human ingenuity

        When they’re horny

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      • das@lemellem.dasonic.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And where would one look for these sexy sexy AI models, so I can avoid them, of course…

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      • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Which models do you think beat Pygmalion for erotic roleplay? Curious for research haha

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  • MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    GPT4All is a neat way to run an AI chat bot on your local hardware.

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    • Soundhole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for this, I haven’t tried GPT4All.

      Oobabooga is also very popular and relatively easy to run, but it’s not my first choice, personally.

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      • teuast@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        it does have a very funny name though

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  • teuast@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In five to ten years, imo, AI will be everywhere and may even replace the need for mobile Internet connections in terms of looking up information.

    You’re probably right, but I kinda hope you’re wrong.

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    • Soundhole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why?

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      • teuast@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Call it paranoia if you want. Mainly I don’t have faith in our economic system to deploy the technology in a way that doesn’t eviscerate the working class.

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t these models require rather a lot of storage?

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    • Soundhole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      13B quantized models, generally the most popular for home computers with dedicated gpus, are between 6 and 10 gigs each. 7B models are between 3 and 6. So, no, not really?

      It is relative so, I guess if you’re comparing that to an atari 2600 cartridge then, yeah, it’s hella huge. But you can store multiple models for the same space cost as a single modern video game.

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      • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah that’s not a lot. I mean… the average consumer probably has 10GB free on their boot volume.

        It is a lot to download. If we’re talking about ordinary consumers. Not unheard of though - some games on Steam are 50GB+

        So okay, storage is not prohibitive.

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    • art@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Storage is getting cheaper every day and the models are getting smaller with the same amount of data.

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      • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m just curious - do you know what kind of storage is required?

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• pyldriver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  God I wish, I would just love local voice control to turn my lights and such on and off… but noooooooooooo

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  • Otkaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    www.home-assistant.io

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    • pyldriver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have home assistant, but have not heard anything good about rhasspy. Just want to control lights and be able to use it to play music and set timers. That being said I run home assistant right now and can control it with Alexa and Siri but… I would like local only

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have that using Wiz lights and ITEEE

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But you want a local base station, else there’s no local control. You want to use local-only networks like z-wave, zigbee, Thread, Bluetooth, etc, even though they require a base station because that’s what gives you a local-only way of controlling things.

      Matter promises a base station may no longer be necessary for smart devices to control each other, but it is rolling out very slowly

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The base stations are what uses the cloud/AI shit. The setup I have doesn’t even require an Internet connection. Why in the hell would I want a base station that costs money, is controlled by Amazon or Google, and requires an Internet connection for my local shit?

        I don’t want a piece of hardware that does nothing but act like a fucking middleman for no good reason.

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• a1studmuffin@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s the year of the voice for Home Assistant. Given their current trajectory, I’m hopeful they’ll have a pretty darn good replacement for the most common use cases of Google Home/Alexa/Siri in another year. Setting timers, shopping list management, music streaming, doorbell/intercom management. If you’re on the fence about a Nabu Casa subscription, pull the trigger as it helps them stay independent and not get bought out or destroyed by commercial interests.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thumbs up for Nabu Casa and Home Assistant!

    I haven’t yet played with the local voice stuff but have been following it with interest. Actually, now that Taspberry Piis are starting to become available again, I’m on the fence between buying a few more, vs finding something with a little more power, specifically for voice processing

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    • foggenbooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Get something with a little more power. Pi’s are reaching outside the price where they make sense these days. You can get an Intel N100 system on AliExpress/Amazon for pretty cheap now and I’ve got mine running ProxMox hosting all kinds of stuff.

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• captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I do wonder how much of those voice assistants could run on-device. Most of what I use Bixby for (I know. I KNOW.) is setting timers. I think simple things like that can run entirely on the phone. It’s got a shocking amount of processing in it.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  While you may have points against Apple and how effective Siri may be, with this latest version kind of products, even the watch has enough processing power to do voice processing on device. No ads. No cloud services

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  • whofearsthenight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pretty much. If you want a voice assistant right now, Siri is probably the best in terms of privacy. I bought a bunch of echos early, then they got a little shitty but I was in, and now I just want them out of my house except for one thing - music. Spotify integration makes for easy multi-room audio in a way that doesn’t really work as well on the other platform that I’ll consider (Apple/Siri) and basically adds sonos-like functionality for a tiny fraction of the price. The Siri balls and airplay are just not as good, and of course, don’t work as well with Spotify.

    But alexa is so fucking annoying that at this point I mostly just carry my phone (iPhone) and talk to that even though it’s a little less convenient because I’m really goddamned tired of hearing “by the way…”

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