I’m aware. I still think they’re the country most in need of labor unions.
Oh I’m sure that’ll go perfectly well in China!
Maybe ask some students on how well that went when they protested on some big square there…
Zephorah@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh, you were serious! Well, I think what they need is Democracy first, then unions. Communism theoretically eliminates the need for unions, but the reality is that it’s just a dictatorship. Unions in China would likely either be co-opted by the Communist party through subterfuge, or through “reeducating” the misguided leadership and defining the unions - thus landing them right where they are, with a new bureaucracy.
Unions represent the spirit of the checks and balances envisioned in the U.S. Constitution. It is only by being of near equal power to the company that employees can negotiate for fair compensation and treatment. Without that, they’re just resources.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They were manipulated by CIA plants that were murdering Chinese army soldiers. So. There’s that part of the story that caused the states response.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Username checks out.
Tankies will always find any excuse to say China can do no wrong, and if they do it’s the west’s fault…
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean. If labor unions killed people. Like they did during some of the coal mine riots. It gives the police and at times military freedoms to retaliate.
I grew up where the sheriff of my county killed 25 people in a single day before miner unions were allowed to exist.
Look up the Williamsport Mine Field Riots. They treated these people like animals. Just like the CCP treats their lower workers.
I’m not a tankie. I just know what happened on the ground that led up to the violence. I was in a masters program for counter terror.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Maybe I misunderstood your original comment. It seemed like you were saying that it was okay for the CCP to massacre protestors because the protestors were manipulated by CIA plants.
If that’s not what you were saying, then I was mistaken. If it was, then I don’t know how anything you just said is supposed to change my opinion…
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Tbf they did protest against the so-called “zero covid” policy and the government sort of gave in.
Zoot@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Was that before or after they welded a bunch of apartment complex doors closed?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You know the answer already, but for those that don’t: after.