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• BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Same sex marriage. Transgender rights. We are in a different age, wars are fought by information now. We are fighting the current war for America by information now. Not by bullets. I am all about Luigis rising up but that’s a lot different than “everyone grab semi and hope for the best.” This isn’t 1776.

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  • K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You think gay rights came without violence? One of the first well documented events leading to where we are right now was called the Stonewall Riots

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    • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The fight for gay rights STARTED with a riot. Same sex marriage came through the courts, decades later. In a new age. I was there, I was fighting for it. There was no violence when SSM and trans rights were brought about.

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  • plyth@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    not a single right you have that wasn’t won via violence.

    Same sex marriage. Transgender rights.

    Could make you wonder how much power the elite had to shed for those.

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  • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Transgender rights

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    You mean the rights that largely don’t exist in half of the US?

    As of July 2025, 40.1% or 120,400 trans youth aged 13-17 are living in the 27 states that have passed bans on gender-affirming care. This includes 2,300 youth living in the two states–Arkansas and Montana–where bans are currently on hold or blocked from enforcement through court orders.

    While our map focuses solely on high school-aged youth (age 13-17), some states, such as Oklahoma, Texas, and South Carolina, have considered banning care for transgender people up to 26 years of age. Additionally, several states prohibit public funds from being used to provide transgender health care for anyone, so adults are also unable to access critical health services if they receive their healthcare through Medicaid, if they work in the public sector, or are incarcerated.

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    Trans people were already reporting their identifying documents like passports, birth certificates, driver’s licenses, and social security cards were being confiscated in the period after the election and before Trump got into office.

    We haven’t “won” trans rights, we’ve only had them because the fascists hadn’t yet gotten around to destroying them. Violence in one form or another is a requirement for successful change, whether that violence be economic or otherwise. The oppressor isn’t going to give you justice simply because you demand it. It wasn’t until after MLK was murdered and billions of dollars in property damage were done that Civil Rights were drafted, voted on, and signed into law - one week of rioting after his death.

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