Comment on Google killing Basic HTML version of Gmail In January 2024

• daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I really don’t understand why people love Proton so much. It’s really expensive, requires a non standard client and in the end you’re still using it to communicate via one of the least secure protocols ever with vast majority of people not using Proton.

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  • Alk@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s the other things that come with it that make the price worth it. Like the VPN, password manager, easy built in email aliases (key word easy built in), and drive storage. I paid for several of those solutions separately until combining them into a cheaper and more secure platform.

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    • daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s the total monthly cost for all these services in a package? “Worth” is different to everyone, but I suspect your definition is very different from mine considering I host my email with purely mail for $10/year and use bitwarden for another $10/year.

      More than a just money though - I’m very hesitant to switch my calendar and contacts management to proprietary software hosted by company in a different country.

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      • Tekchip@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As the saying goes “If you’re not paying for the product you are the product.”

        I’ve been using Fastmail for years now. Worth every penny. Doesn’t even come with “extras” other than a little webdav storage space.

        Most email providers have free tiers. Try them!Find the one that works best for you. Pay for that.

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        +1 for purelymail. It just works, and is everything I need and nothing I don’t. And so cheap.

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    • h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This, for example I love Proton Pass so far. I completely replaced my Bitwarden with Proton Pass. It (Proton Pass) has built-in 2FA authenticator, password generator, Firefox extension, and email generator to hide my email address.

      Not happy with Proton Calendar (pretty basic) or Proton Drive (doesn’t support auto-sync, yet) but I’m patiently waiting for them.

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  • MrMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ProtonMail has a free version which is enough for many. Every email you send or receive in Gmail is being collected as data by Google and i don’t want to give my personal data to Google

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    • daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not defending Google. They are an evil fucking company, but are you not sending any emails to Google either? My point is Proton is charging you for something that makes no difference since your email comes from non Proton servers and goes to non Proton servers most of the time.

      And Proton’s free offering is really not useful to most people. Maybe as a short term trial, but certainly not a replacement for main inbox.

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      • Alk@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Again, we’re not just talking about email. Things like email aliases and other features are what people mainly stick with Proton for. Nobody knows my real email. They all get an instantly generated alias that I can revoke at any time. Plus if I get spam, I will know who leaked my email. Most people do not actually send many personal emails. It’s a secure platform with many benefits.

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      • MrMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you are referring to ProtonMail encryption, i think it’s primarily about encryption at rest, so that nobody except you (not even Proton) can read your emails. Unlike other email providers (like Gmail) where the emails could be easily accessed by the email providers whenever they want/need to (like data for ads or legal orders from government etc). While not at rest (i.e., sending/receiving emails), emails between Proton and Gmail are on TLS unless it changed in recent years, unless the email is password protected in which case Gmail cannot read the email until you open it with the password

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• Brisolo32@lemmy.eco.br ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  skiff is also a good option

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• Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’d love two email, can you have that in the official app? I’m on some basic (paid) VPN plan of Proton and have an “unsoiled” email address there already :-)

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