NVIDIA doesn’t manufacture chips at all (TSMC does), so this facility would presumably be for R&D, marketing, devising the next scheme to screw everyone over and increase share value, yada yada.
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bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
On a more practical level, why????
It takes an enormous amount of ultra pure water to make a micro chip. There is a worsening water shortage in that area. This is the worse place to do this.
Also if you built it in the eu, you have easy access to a huge market and ready customers. Also the Middle East is constantly immersed in war. If Iran wants to really hurt Israel just start blowing up Nvidia.
On a purely practical level, this is really stupid. So the only explanations are politics, or they are being paid to do this. As to whom engineered this I have no idea.
Luminotik@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Wait, so excuse my ignorance here, if they are made by others in Tawain, what does nvidia do? They just program them then?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
NVIDIA handles hardware design and software components, TSMC handles actual silicon manufacturing, and a third party handles assembly. This is the case for nearly all hardware companies outside of Intel, Samsung, and a few domestic companies in the PRC.
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
And even those other companies only manufacture some of the components
Most components they need come in plastic rolls that machines pick up and place on boards, and other such methods
It’s just like any other business, most stuff is bought and assembled into the final produt, but not produced locally.
Luminotik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re not far off. It’s kinda like NVIDIA is the architect who designs the house while TSMC are the guys who actually build it.
The reason for that split is that maintaining fabs (the facilities which actually produce the chips with EUV machines) is insanely expensive and requires much different staff, resources, and expertise than doing the chip design itself.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
The chips are made in Taiwan (TSMC), this is likely for chip designers, (and marketers and executives and sundry other hangers on of little worth), water is irrelevant. Evil on the other hand…
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Evil on the other hand…
I agree, it would be much better if Israel were located in some part of (former in that case) Northern Bavaria and its problematic (or not) neighbors were Germans, making them more justified bombing targets. Unfortunately in that case it’d be very likely that it wouldn’t last 20 years. There’d be a combined arms operation, some additional smoke from the stoves, and probably neither the Western nor the Soviet side would care much what their pet Germans are doing.
Also for the purpose of minimizing evil locating chip design in Israel is not worse than in USA. I’m not sure whether you’ll want to argue that, just adding.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It takes an enormous amount of ultra pure water to make a micro chip
Israel has some of the most advanced desalination facilities in the world
hark@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They make such great use of our tax dollars.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If this was all they were doing, I’d agree
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
If Iran wants to really hurt Israel just start blowing up Nvidia.
That’d be a great way to get either Maduro’d or more likely Iraq’d unfortunately. War on nvidia is war on Trump.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Iran would only bomb it when attacked. The problem is that Israel is on a course to invade every country around them and be in permanent war forever. So building tech hubs there is like drawing a giant bullseye on the map
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Those tech hubs are like body armor for Israel unfortunately. Most are American companies and the investments tend to be in the range of billions. CEOs of those companies have Trump’s ear.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Politicians serve businesses and billionaires, not the other way around.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Iran would only bomb it when attacked.
Not quite true, they have a Shia version of Trotsky’s world revolution, except about final battle against evil and apocalypse.
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Maduro was given up by venezuela’s military though. That operation was not possible, and indeed would not have been attempted, if the military hadn’t entered into an agreement to stand down, and given intelligence. Helicopters are vulnerable to multiple weapons systems they couldn’t reliably take out, not the least in one of the most protected places in the country with the country mobilized.
There is no question, the military is now the de facto power, overseeing the now puppet civilian government in selling out their assets, an old cold war template.
'As such, they would not be able to do that in Iran. What they could do, is assassinate their leaders, including the ayatollah. They have everything compromised more than Iran thinks too, they could. Only the US likely stopped netanyahu from doing so already.
As to invasions, it has a lot of mountainous areas, and is several times larger than Iraq, which is mostly flat. We could go through and blow shit up with impunity, but an Iraq style invasion is out of the question unless our leaders lose their minds quite a bit more. Not that they wouldn’t try anyway but not now they want to make war on America.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
We could go through and blow shit up with impunity,
Iran’s nuclear.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Maduro was given up by venezuela's military though
Idk about that.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
The military wouldn’t have brought helicopters low like that if they weren’t. There are mobile units, shoulder fired weaponry, truck mounted, that can take down helicopters, and they were mobilized, and this was one of the most fortified areas in the country.
I am amazed at how bad everyone is at seeing what is going on, but here we are.
discocactus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Israel is at the forefront of water purification tech. As long as they have energy they can make water.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Is this contributing to the dead sea drying up?
discocactus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I doubt it. It would be highly inefficient to try to desalinate water that is already saltier than the ocean (which they have access to).
Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They aren’t going to manufacture there. Chip manufacturing happens almost exclusively in Taiwan. That new building is just an office to design those chips.
A lot of maths goes into designing computer chips. You need an army of highly trained mathematicians and engineers for that.
And Israel is a really rich country that gets a lot of gifts and “investments” from people who want to show they aren’t antisemitic. They invest a lot of that money into the education of their citizens.
Israel’s universities are some of the best in the world. While US universities are on a steep downhill.
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Maybe they can use salt water for it? If they have to desalianate it one would think that would be a dealbreaker.
Tis a good question you ask. Why indeed. Just currying favor with the group that controls the superpower I suppose, what with the child fucking tapes Israel has on the president and a critical mass of politicians in the US and UK, and businessman and other swells. And whatever other blackmail.
I can’t think of any other reasons, other than currying favour with Israel.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lot of Zionists in the Nvidia board and staff trying to tie the worlds most valuable company to the Apartheid state. They want Israel to be a strategic asset like TSMC.
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
it looks like Israel is paying them to do this. So yes.
oozy7@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
More like US American tax payer is paying them to do this indirectly
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
yup! I have to say that my country has been a decades long disappointment to me.
kreskin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’ll eventually destroy nvidia, like they do to everything else they touch. Nvidia is just a tool to them. The US government is just a tool to them too.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Flip it and you've got it.