Comment on If the 2028 United States presidential election was held today, who would you vote for?

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It was also the only strategy last election, but millions of idiots still voted for non-starter 3rd party candidates or didn’t vote.

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  • humanamerican@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Voting third party in non-swing states is one of the few ways for people to register their disgust with fake-ass corporate shill Dems.

    Voting third party in a swing state is idiotic.

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• Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You could register Republican, then vote in the Republican primary for the less evil candidate.

  Then in the general election vote for the Democratic nominee.

  Although I don’t think many people are doing that, so maybe there’s a flaw to my thinking

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I simply don’t believe the GOP is possible to save at this point. So I’d never do that.

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    • Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This wouldn’t be about saving the GOP. They aren’t going to collapse any time soon, and I don’t think they are morally saveable either.

      It’s just about getting two chances at avoiding the greatest possible evil.

      Conservatives are bad. But MAGA-progressives are downright evil.

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nah bro

    Even if a “moderate” candidate wins the republican primary, its still gonna be 10x worse than the average corporate dem

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    • Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yes. But how is that relevant?

      Either the Democrats win the general election, then it’s irrelevant who the Republican candidate is, or they lose. Then the moderate Republican would be much better than the maga extremist.

      I guess there could be some concerns about a moderate Republican swaying more independent voters?

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• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Actually I have a better voting strategy:

  But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

  — Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I also like to fail at my goals. High five!

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  • Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So what is your plan to actually achieve goals? Protest? A coup d’etat? Civil war?

    Do you think archiving those goals in a MAGA-autocracy will be easier than in a less evil system?

    How many lives is that sort of change worth?

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