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• Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not a contract, because the parties involved didn’t all get a chance to agree to it before hand.

  If you want to use a contract as an analogy, you might say your offering someone the options of signing a new contract, or being being ostracized.

  The best way to eliminate bigotry, is with unearned compassion. It’s certainly more difficult. But it is the highest moral ideal.

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  • CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Eh…

    This might work at a micro, local scale. But it does not work nationally or even regionally.

    One side is rabidly homicidal, public stating they’ll kill people who are different from them.

    You simply can’t love these people to death. Because they will continue to kill while you reason with them.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You simply can’t love these people to death. Because they will continue to kill while you reason with them.

      First. We’re talking about bigots, not murders. Those are two separate groups. It’s prejudicial to assume all bigots are murders.

      Second. You can’t “reason” with them, because their position isn’t based on reason, but emotion. You simply be kind to them. Be their friend. Show them that X aren’t all the bad things they imagine.

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      • dmonzel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s prejudicial to assume all bigots are murders.

        What do bigots want to have happen to the people they hate?

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  • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Absolutely. Go tell all those gay and trans people that they should’ve showed their murderers more compassion.

    I’m not saying that what you suggest is impossible, but it’s idealistic and naïve.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Being a murder is different than being a bigot.

      I would bet the vast majority of bigots, have never killed anyone.

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      • teuast@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But a whole lot of them would vote for somebody who has.

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I would bet with many the only reason none of them have killed someone is because they would get in trouble with the law, not because they are morally against it.

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  • militaryintelligence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Appeasement. That always works.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not talking about appeasement.

      You don’t have to agree with someone or do what they want, to not shun them. Have you never disagreed with a friend? Did you read the article I linked to?

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      • Doug@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’re getting downvoted because you seem to be falling to understand that that guy is exceptional in that he is an exception, not the norm.

        You realize it wasn’t that long ago that black people were hanged for as little as looking at a white person the wrong way at times, yes?

        Being super nice isn’t a reliable way to accomplish what he has.

        Even if it is it’s not an option for everyone. A white guy acting like this towards a KKK member isn’t going to accomplish this. A Hispanic guy doing it is unlikely to change a racist’s opinion on black people.

        Your statements come off as Elon Musk telling people to work hard to be rich because it’s happened before.

        It may be a useful tool, but one guy, or even a handful of them, does not prove it’s the “best way”.

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  • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I am going to pray nobody takes this idiot seriously

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ad hominem

      It would be more effective to explain how I’m wrong. But if you can’t right now, I understand. My comments will still be here tomorrow.

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      • Cabrio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Disingenuous

        You don’t seem to be in a state of mind for willing absorbtion of information.

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  • Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not a contract, because the parties involved didn’t all get a chance to agree to it before hand.

    Everyone gets automatic entry and can leave any time they want. If they decide they don’t agree to it there’s nothing keeping them from shrugging off the good graces of society. I think that’s pretty fair.

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    • Droechai@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I was in a very bad spot once and one part of it was due to the so called social contract and the demands it put on me as an individual but when I tried to exit the contract I got forced in ward psychiatric care which kind of negates your argument of there being a choice.

      Now a days I still have some issues with the social contract but have other things to live for and have managed to come to terms on how to live with it.

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  • Aiastarei@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Acshually the social contract isn’t a thing because I didn’t get to review and sign it

    Bruh

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  • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Omfg I knew it would be that guy. He’s the guy your type always reps. Maybe read what black anti racist orgs have to say about him. It’s not nearly as nice as what the KKK says.

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