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Isn’t that Matrix?

ActivityPub wouldn’t work because it’s not a messaging protocol. It’s a publishing protocol. The closest thing you have is Lemmy- where you have a server (instance) with channels (communities).

It’ll be easier to achieve something like this using SMTP (email protocol) than with ActivityPub.

Matrix and XMPP are your best bets (although XMPP doesn’t necessarily natively have video call, usually you’ll have an accompanying TURN server)

What you can do with email, xmpp and the fediverse is have the same username. It is possible for someone to make a platform which gives you one name and it accepts email, xmpp and fedi. Unfortunately, Matrix, for some strange reason uses the format of @name:server instead of the standard name@server (activitypub might use @name@server but that’s close enough and a lot of lemmy frontends don’t even care for the initial @. In reality that initial @ is probably just being used to ping them, now realising.)

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RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Everyone complaining about matrix are just complaining about front end issues, they are absolutely fixable.

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Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Matrix just isn’t up to it. It doesn’t function the same really. It doesn’t feel the same.

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- SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  That might not be a bad thing. I hate Discord. That might come due to its usage though. It’s just not made to organize technical support.
  
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  - Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Well yes, that’s the problem. Matrix is just used for tech/troubleshoot issues and it’s buggy as hell.
    
    It isn’t a social experience like discord. It is a gap in the fediverse
    
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    gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    matrix can absolutely be a social experience. check out the 196 blahaj chat: matrix.to/#/#196-Blahaj:chat.blahaj.zone
    
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    NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I exclusively use Mateo for social experiences. I’m in servers and group chats for clubs, communities, and even Lemmy instances. Works great
    
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- Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  In what ways?
  
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  - Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Its buggy, it just doesn’t really look like Discord. It is a chore for new users to use. There’s no useful community discovery.
    
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    Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That sounds like a frontend issue. Not a protocol issue
    
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    littleomid@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Don’t go looking for a 1 to 1 drop in. That mindset won’t work much. Same case wit expecting windows to work the same as windows: they’re just different and have to be learned in their own ways.
    
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- Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  You can’t choose what order channels are in, for one thing
  
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  - Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That sounds like a frontend issue
    
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poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

although XMPP doesn’t necessarily natively have video call, usually you’ll have an accompanying TURN server

The same is true for Matrix and the popular Ejabberd xmpp server has a Stun/Turn server built in, which makes it even easier to setup than what you have on Matrix.

P.S.: Matrix also isn’t a messaging protocol. It is a distributed database protocol that has been abused for making a messenger with it.

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- Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  P.S.: Matrix also isn’t a messaging protocol. It is a distributed database protocol that has been abused for making a messenger with it.
  
  Harsh, but true
  
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- fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Right. This is why you CAN do video, audio, messaging, 3d object data, etc using the same backend servers. It does require some complexity on the dev side too because of that
  
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