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well, the .ml mods never seem to be the “power-tripping” type of asshole. they would argue and were combative and were definitely assholes, but they didn’t seem to quick to ban people.

The major objection (and why most people left) was because of the explicit political views of the Admins (who also are the main devs for the Lemmy software) and the rampant intolerance of other views by not only them, but the other users of that instance. I ran into users on .ml that were soooo far worse than the shittiest assholes I ever encountered of Reddit or Digg. It’s part of why I’ve switched to PieFed.

Lemmy does help mitigate this by giving the wider community the ability to sort of sequester the trouble-makers and to easily block them.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
.ml mods are exactly the type to ban people from every community because they don’t share the exact same viewpoints as the mod in question.

dbzer0 is getting almost as bad with certain admin and certain topics now too.

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- Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  dbzer0 definitely has a problem with banning people for voting
  
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  - SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Their lefty communities are very authoritarian too.
    
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    Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I haven’t experienced that personally but I trust you with My life, SatansMaggotyCumFart. You’ve always been right about these things before.
    
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  - eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Source?
    
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    Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48662871
    
    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43560521
    
    TL;DR: The dbzer0 community decided to start banning people for downvoting AI generated posts. They said they’d only ban people who come to a community and do mass downvotes, but Ace T’Ken downvoted four AI posts that showed up in the feed across a period of ten months, and was still banned from several communities by a prominent dbzer0 mod. There was also a side plot involving some person or group of people impersonating every major actor involved in the drama, which is why so many comments in the thread are removed.
    
    There were several other drama threads related to the voting bans:
    
    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/50067209
    
    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46410988
    
    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640
    
    I remember a few more discussions from back when all this was new, but didn’t have as easy a time finding them.
    
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- homes@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  OK, maybe so. I blocked that instance a long time ago, and haven’t kept up on recent goings-on. If you say that it’s gotten worse, I’ll take your word for it.
  
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  - SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Which instance are you talking about there?
    
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    homes@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    oh, sorry– .ml
    
    I haven’t personally run afoul of issues on dbzer0, but I’ve seen others complain about it for a while.
    
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- goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Db0 is going further right everyday ever since certain comms thought he was too lefty
  
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  - SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    dB0 is cool flatworm is going full authoritarian at times
    
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    goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Db0 been more the one to do it but 🤷
    
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  - eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    What’s right wing about db0?
    
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    goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    he’s been on the warpath against anyone to the left of shit just works
    
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OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
But also when they would ban someone, they would do so from every single community on their instance, including ones that you’ve never even heard of.

And then never bother to so much as tell you about your being banned.

And also deny you the ability to appeal or ask questions - e.g. Reddit has both a modmail and the ability to continue discourse directly in a post that has been removed from a community listing. Which as a former mod I would use to communicate rejection reasons and sometimes we’d go back and forth for days talking about the subject further, e.g. ways that the newcommer could modify it as to not piss off the old hands in the community (e.g. NSFW is allowed but must be properly labeled or some such).

Oh, and soon a change is going to give lemmy.ml veto power on what communities are allowed to be suggested to new instances - and being baked right into the code so there is no way to change that - rather than use a third-party listing.

I find it highly ironic that in some ways Lemmy, in particular .ml, is more authoritarian than even Reddit.

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- homes@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  But also when they would ban someone, they would do so from every single community on their instance, including ones that you’ve never even heard of.
  
  this is what I was talking about earlier. I find it to be an absurdly childish overreaction, and the mods & admins on some communities/instances default to this behavior with a ridiculous amount of entitlement. it’s not hard to see just by looking at the modlogs.
  
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