Very interesting comments. Does anybody know of a good linux alternative for FLStudio? I’ve seen LMMS, but I’ve also read it wasn’t quite there yet
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BaraCoded@literature.cafe 2 months ago
Can it run FLstudio?
BaraCoded@literature.cafe 2 months ago
melfie@lemy.lol 2 months ago
I’d really like to run a newer version of Cubase myself. I’ve gotten older versions running on WINE, but 12+ has display issues.
9point6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It can with the addition of WineASIO, but unless this release has focused on fixes for this setup (which it may have done!), we’re still not ready.
But I tried during the summer (albeit with Ableton rather than FL) and it’s still quite high latency which turns into weird noise and artifacting if I try reducing the buffer size (with much larger buffers than I typically use on windows).
YABridge is getting better though, this time around I got a few more of my VSTs working, I still have zero luck with any of the VSTs with licenses that I have on my iLok key.
I can’t wait for the day the guys working on this finally crack pro audio properly, it’s literally the only reason I still run windows on my desktop.
And since every time I mention this problem, I end up having to say this in a reply to someone: To anyone suggesting I don’t use Ableton or my VSTs that don’t work (of which there are hundreds), I’ve got two decades of Ableton projects that I can open up in windows and pretty much carry on working on it as if I created it yesterday. That’s before going into the fact I’ve spent a lot of money over the years on licences for this stuff, so being able to continue using it is more important to me than my operating system choice. Until I can do the same in Linux it’s gonna have to be a dual boot situation.
whaleross@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Any idea about USB drivers if it will ever be possible? I have synths and gear that needs firmware upgrades with flashers that only run on Win/Mac and I haven’t been able to get them to work with Wine.
9point6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s always possible, the bulk of the hardware Linux supports is proprietary stuff that someone had to reverse engineer at some point.
Whether a given niche piece of hardware, gets support for a non-essential-to-normal-operation feature such as firmware update support, is down to if someone is interested/motivated/determined enough to do the reverse engineering, write the driver and get it merged into the kernel.
whaleross@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wouldn’t this rather be the case of proxy hardware layer for any driver to talk to that gets forwarded to the USB port in Linux? I mean the drivers are not for PC component but for talking with whatever device and chipset is connected to the PC over USB.
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
You can hand over a USB device fully to a Windows VM. That’s how I update my Yamaha stuff.
whaleross@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, thanks. I did it a couple of times with the free web dev vm of Windows 10 but it is only valid for 30 days so it gets annoying quickly. After identifying the chipset in some devices I’ve tried to get the Linux toolkit or just the flashing tool from the manufacturers but for whatever reason they will not give it out unless you are a customer of their chipset.
fluxx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
AFAIK there is no reason why vst companies wouldn’t produce linux builds, vst has been opened for Linux for a long time now, they just need to port it. iLok should also be possible, though I personally hate it, but I’m not a pro.
9point6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah I think there are a few Linux compiled VSTs out there but IIRC there’s very little host support for them in native Linux, let alone into a host running under Wine. CLAP is probably what we should be banking on tbh since it was designed with Linux support in mind from the start.
I’m also not a big fan of iLok or any similar DRM, but if they’re going to enforce draconian licensing restrictions anyway, being able to move my key between machines and use all my licenses is actually a pretty valuable feature. Compared that to (let’s say Waves) stuff that will only let me license it on a single machine, and limits the number of times you can remote-revoke to a couple of times a year.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 months ago
I hear you. I’ve been using Cubase and other older tools for over 20 years. I get that DAWs like Reaper or Bitwig would work better, but I really don’t want to retool as much as I want to avoid Windows. I’ve been meaning to to test out WinBoat whenever I have time, but not sure how DAWs perform in a VM either.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Is Ableton stable enough is you only use output? Do you know if ut supports M4L?