I don’t really have an issue with vibe coding as such, but more the people that tend to use it. Because the people that use it often have no programming skills, they have no clue what the code actually does or a way to check it, so we end up with releasing black-boxes that they don’t really know how work or what the code actually does or contains. If you just validate the generated code to make sure it’s properly made and doesn’t contain things it shouldn’t, I have no issue with it.
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alx@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
How does this community feel about ai slop and “vibe coding”? I for one would like to see it disappear completely and become forbidden in as many places as possible
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
j4k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You are solely responsible for vetting the software that you choose to run.
I do not review or care about the tools a person uses to create their projects. I appreciate the disclaimer when the person discloses their aptitude and confidence in their code.
Free software and Unix culture is a culture of hackers. Stallman’s very degree is in AI. Emacs is mostly a thing because lisp was adapted early on for AI development many decades ago.
Junk code is nothing new. X11 is notoriously bad, yet you likely have parts of it running on your hardware. Proprietary code is far far worse than anything a hacker posts as open source, yet you are running proprietary blobs on whatever device you are looking at now. Even if you are like myself with a libreboot machine, Leah readily admits that you need to run the core duo microcode if you want it to run right, and are not using that hardware for your primary device. The culture of antiAI is dogmatic nonsense. It is a tool, not a religion. It can be used harmfully or helpfully. I can’t fix stupid in anyone except myself. I do not fault anyone for what they run, the projects they share, or the background they come from. I encourage everyone to be positive and help their fellow hackers. I value participation and enthusiasm. Dogma and negativity are toxic.
I am ultra liberal. You have a right to all information, a right to skepticism, a right to error, and a right to protest in non violent forms aka the right to offend others. You do not have a right to infringe the rights of others.
This anti AI populism infringes the rights to all information and right to error if any administrative actions are taken. Your right to protest and skepticism is duly noted. If these become toxic in any ways that alter the dissemination of information, or toxic/harmful to the individual sharing information, I will remove the offending comments. If the person continues, I will escalate. I am only the janitor here. I clean up the messes. I do not matter, but neither does anyone else here. It is a community, and only the community matters. Garbage software is bog standard. Crusade against things that matter like proprietary software leveraged hardware theft and SaaS.
alx@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I am ultra liberal.
sounds about right. I’m sorry you wrote all of this for nothing.
molten_boron@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m with you on this one. I don’t want anything to do with it.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even Linus Torvalds talked about vibe coding a personal project. Are you going to stop using Linux?
alx@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
you really couldn’t find a better fallacy?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Linus has already said he was impressed with AI finding a bug in Linux that no one else had found. So Linux already has AI assistance. Yes it has been human reviewed. You don’t know what the OP did with his AI assistance.
You said you want it to “disappear and be forbidden.”
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That doesnt sound like slop or vibe coding though
Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Torvalds does not write any code for Linux anymore, why would his personal project be relevant to the kernel?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
His last commit was two days ago: github.com/torvalds/linux
He doesn’t spend his time writing large modules of Linux but he does tweak code and review it for commits. He has said that he doesn’t want any anti AI language in the docs. He said it’s a tool and if it was “prohibited” people would lie about it anyway. The important part is that he personally reviews it. He can’t know who actually wrote it.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I dunno. If it accomplishes the goal and there’s not a better option…?
I’m skeptical that it does accomplish the goal though.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The issue is that if you accept it, there will be no better option. Once you get out of the evangelists (who rarely actually contribute much code…) you are looking at professionals who are choosing to spend their free time contributing to the community. And having a few users (or, in this case, ad watching customers in the android app…) goes a long way. You don’t get that if everyone has decided the vibe coded slop is “good enough”.
DBNinja@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Interesting perspective. I guess I’m the opposite since I believe if you care about and believe in your code, you’re willing to be honest about the tools you used to generate it.