Suicidally bad naming is the one thing we can always rely on Microsoft for
Comment on Microsoft Office has been renamed to “Microsoft 365 Copilot app”
damo_omad@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Office is the last good branding Microsoft have and they’re just getting rid of it, I can’t believe it
chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Maybe they hired the brand team from HBO.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
you mean HBO Max? wait it’s Max now? No, it’s HBO. No, Max. No, HBO Max. The real seahorse emoji is…
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Not to defend MS’s bullcrap, but their server OS are much better than their fucking aweful office.
Starting with WinNT back in the days.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Ah, yes, Windows NT.
I remember how this little operating system with a kernel invented by a Finnish dude and with no real corporate back almost completelly ate their market share in the server space back in the day (not that they’ve had a significant server market for long in between the end of the era of SunOS and the beginning of the era of Linux).
I actual did server-side development and just about every company I worked for in 2 decades and 3 countries had masses of Linux servers and if that much a handful of Windows servers, and that included all sized of company, from small ones to massive corporate behemoths.
Whilst I haven’t been doing server side stuff for a few years, I’m actually surprised they still have any server market at all, since the only upside their server solutions have over Linux is perfect integration with their Desktop OS whilst all the rest are downsides.
I guess that they have some market share because basically their servers serve as glue between instances of to their Desktop OS in a network because of using closed protocols (i.e. a forced depenency on the desktop market rather than superior quality) whilst for any kind of generic computing they’re an inferior solution to even a free OS.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
I didn’t mean to start a what’s-best-for-companies (as i really don’t care, i stopped working 30yrs ago and am doing server-stuff just for fun at home mostly), but just said that their server-OSs are tremendously better than their office-shit and their desktop-OSs. Since NT they surely matured a lot, also i’d argue that with 2019+ i fail to see the appeal anymore. Having said that, of my 15+ machines here, there are only 2 windows left and that is just for that decades-old-domain plus some essentials.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I totally agreed with that: their Server OS is superior to their Desktop OS.
I just think it’s mainly because their Desktop OS has fast enshittified after Windows 7 rather than because Windows server is actually all that great as a server OS.
In fact, thinking about it, one might even say that Windows Server is better than the Desktop version because it’s to a very great extent a Desktop OS (in terms of having things like having an a complex UI layer and set of support applications integrated) the very thing which is actually a large part of the reason why its an inferior server OS for typical server-side scenarios because there what you most value is maximum computing resources made available to the server applications (which tend to be heavy users of computing, memory, networking or a combination of those) and an integrated UI layer actually uses more of those just for the OS (both directly for its own work and indirectly from the added complexity of a bulkier OS resulting in less streamlined execution paths) making fewer resources available for the same hardware.
If you look at the Linux distros and distro variants for server deployment they are actually vastly inferior to the Windows OS Desktop - for starters because they’re command-line only, though nowadays there’s often web-based management interfaces which are still a much lighter option than a directly integrated UI layer - exactly because absent an intergrated UI layer, not adding the UI support on top via something like XWindows or Wyland on a server Linux distro actually makes them better for server tasks.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Good?
It’s godawful, to the point of being barely functional
My company runs on office and I write everything in Google drive, then export it to a word document and import it into office because working on office web is just a joke.
Seriously.
Sometimes it just randomly and quietly deletes some text I just typed
Sometimes it just changes layouts on other pages where I’m not even working
Sometimes it says it saved the work and it saved didly squat
I see Microsoft office as something that only “enterprise” level customers would be stupid enough to use and to pay actual money for.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They didn’t say it was a good product
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
yeah office used to just work (mostly, and ignoring the quirks), but this past year it’s been doing weird shit and generally been unreliable because of cloud sync behaviour for me
Katana314@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’ve been writing a long work, using Office for web editing. Every so often in proofreading, I find spots where it looks like words were just missing. Now I feel like I may have some explanation…
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Apparently word online will just st random drop pieces of text during saving.
Why?
Microsoft. That’s why
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 days ago
Nah, they’re right. The first time I tried Linux I remember how irritated and nitpicking I was with LibreOffice, and how that has always been sort of the dealbreaker for me in terms of becoming a dedicated Linux user.
The entire world runs on .docx like it or not. If it’s not either close to an exact replica or far superior, it’s a no-go. I remember giving up on Google Docs because of something to do keystrokes and margin formats. Nothing has ever been able to quite replace it up to this point.
Shame they’ve decided to dump their entire undisputed monopoly for AI lol