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nomy@lemmy.zip 5 days agoSummary of this thread: hey literally nazis are taking power and planning on putting marginalized groups into camps eventually, but also wanting a gun makes you a pussy you fucking degenerate just talk it out
masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
shiroininja@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Let’s stop kidding yourselves, gun owners in this current regime situation are like a bunch of idiots standing at the cliff edge waiting for someone to jump, when you all know none of you are going to do shit.
nomy@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
I’m most worried about magat goon squads in lifted F250s rolling up in my inclusive small blue city neighborhood in a sea of red. Which I assure you I’ll “do shit” about. But if you have some brilliant tactical plan feel free to lead the charge.
Buying into antigun rhetoric is one of the biggest missteps “the left” has made in recent decades.
We have an authoritarian fascist state coalescing as we speak and there are still leftists advocating gun control. It’s a losing argument in the U.S. right now. I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
Our current situation really is the culmination of almost 70 years of rightwing efforts. It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.
The shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again, they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate how bad these people are and they’re winning.
The coup was successful, they’re in power and if they don’t want to give it up they won’t.
Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing.
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miked@piefed.social 4 days ago
i replied elsewhere:
My post was about my specific past.
Grew up with guns used for hunting in the house. I’m not anti-gun and have shot as an adult.
The current political situation in the US has had me considering buying one.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The reply was not on your ass! We all good!
But it’s a solid reply to the poster above.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Copy/paste reply for you smug assholes:
I’m far more heavily armed than most. I could outfit my entire block, though they’re already armed; young, old, liberal, MAGA. Yes, even the little old black lady across the street.
What the fuck do you want me to do? I’m sick of these smartass posts. Give me fucking instructions and be clear or STFU.
Fuck me. Saw what looked like an ICE thing in Alabama today, put my Colt .45 under my leg while trying to get my immigrant wife the hell back to Florida. There’s a 12-gauge pump leaning on my desk 24x7 and the AR-15 leans on my nightstand. Being that there’s no ICE around here, want me to hunt some down a couple of states away? Be clear in your instructions.
I now lock my doors, have a gun in reach everywhere I go and live in fear. And you assholes, “LOL! Where my 2A boys at?”
miked@piefed.social 4 days ago
My post was about my specific past.
Grew up with guns used for hunting in the house. I’m not anti-gun and have shot as an adult.
The current political situation in the US has had me considering buying one.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Do so before it’s too late to have that option. But it takes lots of time and money (ammo) to get the practice in. There’s a reason LGBT, minorities and women have been the top first-time buyers for years now.
But please, please god, start leaning now. There is so much more to unpack that most people know, and that includes current gun owners.
I highly recommend Paul Harrell’s videos (RIP). He’s rather dry, with dry humor, but he’s more expert than anyone I’ve seen. He starts with a question. What about this? He tests it, shows results, discusses how fair the test was, with zero judgment. His videos are a masterclass on how to present a topic and how to setup simple experiments and draw conclusions. He is a teacher above all else.
Here’s one perfectly suited for you!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
[deleted]ripcord@lemmy.world 5 days ago
That’s not a solution for a country of 340 million people. For even a quarter of the population.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Ok, that was unsesible, sorry.
butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 5 days ago
It’s okay bro, when they come for you just call the police. Totally not an extremely privileged take.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You are going to LOVE this one.
And yeah, everyone on my block has a gun. Well-off, poor, black, white, old, young, liberal, MAGA, everyone. (It’s quite a diverse block!) No ICE around here, not even in this region.
I am in dread of watching the noose tighten. They’ll be here soon enough.
butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 4 days ago
You’re right, that one is pretty perfect. Good luck to you and your community, stay strong. I’m sorry for everything you all are going through.