Comment on The whole "toilet seat up, toilet seat down" gender debate could be solved by everybody putting the seat and lid down.

remon@ani.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But seat down is more hygienic when you flush. It isv the morally situation superior position

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  • myrmidex@belgae.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How is it more hygienic? I can’t imagine that extra brim holding off a lot of the shit particles launched into the room upon flushing.

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    • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It doesn’t make your bathroom shit free or something but it does do this 🤷‍♀️

      Not sure if it’s better or worse in any meaningful way tho

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        yeah i get the picture but the real question is whether this whole topic is even worth discussing or whether the effect size is so small that it practically doesn’t matter.

        i mean, handbags and door knobs are some of the worst offenders to hygiene but you never see people getting all worked up about those topics, even though i suspect they’re much more significant than whether the toilet lid is up or down. that’s why i’m suspecting people are inflating a small issue into a big trouble here.

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      • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I really doesn’t matter tho because poop particles are everywhere regardless of your toilet seat orientation.

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      • myrmidex@belgae.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I was too quick, missed mention of the lid, that makes more sense 😄

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It does make a difference, it means measurably less poo bacteria on places like your tooth brush

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    • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It keeps the fecal mist a little bit more contained.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sure, but not really the point.

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    • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the user meant to say “lid down”

      • seat down: easy for one group, slightly inconvenient for the other, unhygienic when flushing

      • seat up: easy for one group, slightly inconvenient for the other, unhygienic when flushing

      • seat and lid down: slightly inconvenient for both parties (but if it’s consistent then you can build muscle memory), and hygienic when flushing

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You are correct, I did mean lid down too

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      • remon@ani.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My point is that it doesn’t matter on which option you agree. The entire problem is agreeing to one option on the first place.

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• proudblond@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think the idea of “fairness” comes in that everyone has to do something, regardless of whether you use the seat or not. If you don’t use the seat, then you put the lid and seat down (presumably in one go). If you do use the seat, you put the lid down. Either way, you have to lift something before you use the toilet.

  Personally I think toilets should just have their lids closed when not in use, regardless.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Personally I think toilets should just have their lids closed when not in use, regardless.

    I agree. But the sole reason is that I don’t want my cat to drink out of it (and potentially fall in). I’m also an enjoyer of the sit-down-wee, so no arguing there, either.

    There are still good reasons for having other opinions about it, tough, for people in other circumstances. And that’s exactly why this is just a disagreement that can’t be solved all and for once.

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