Comment on The whole "toilet seat up, toilet seat down" gender debate could be solved by everybody putting the seat and lid down.

• towerful@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  While true, quantity of poop particles also matters.
  Your body can fight off loads of bacteria. But once it gets to an infection point, it can’t keep up and you become ill.

  So yeh, poop is everywhere. As long as it’s small amounts, it’s fine.

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  • tburkhol@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The study where gustofwind got the illustration says it’s around 10x reduction of deposited bacteria with the lid down.

    www.ajicjournal.org/article/…/fulltext#tbl0010

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      10x reduction doesn’t even make sense. It’s not possible to reduce by more than 1x, as that would be 100% of the bacteria gone.

      And your link doesn’t support what you said at all.

      The floor and the walls of the restroom were contaminated after toilet flushing, but no significant differences were observed between the contamination occurring with lid position up or down. Wall contamination was minimal, regardless of lid position, and there was no significant difference in contamination level between the surfaces assessed, but data indicated that the trajectory of the aerosol plume contamination may have changed. Floor contamination was not found to be reduced consistently by toilet lid closure prior to flushing.

      Am I misreading something?

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      • tburkhol@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m not interested in their narrative, I’m talking about their numbers. They measured plaque formation - colonies - of bacteria from surface wipes around the toilet after flushing a contaminated toilet bowl. Depending on the location & lid state, they got, generally 10^3-10^6 plaques. 10^5 with the lid closed, 10^6 open, which is a 10x difference. There’s no difference in the surfaces directly facing the bowl; hardly surprising that there’s little contamination left by the time you get all the way to the walls - 1/r^2 effect. Look at the surface you sit on.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But how does it compare to what’s already there? How does it affect the average toilet user’s bacterial load, and how does that compare to an approximate threshold for infection?

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• Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  House dust is up to 50% human skin particles. You're breathing in all sorts of crap, and outside I'm sure there's loads more including animal crap.

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s a lot easier to clean the walls than the ceiling

  ☝️🤓

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  • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Clean both. Don’t clean both.

    Still. The poop particles remain.

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But I don’t lick the ceiling…

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