100% fearmongering bullshit designed to erode property rights. Cars have been completely “open” throughout their entire history until recently, and the problems caused by irresponsible owner modification have been both negligible and entirely acceptable (compared to the alternative of going full-blown police state to stop them).
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JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 17 hours agoIt kind of makes sense to not allow people to do that - just imagine what horrors people will create that totally will kill people. Cars are dangerous.
grue@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
pahlimur@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
They would probably have a panic attack if they learned about megasquirt. Cars being locked down is so unnatural that most of their design allows them to be controlled by open source solutions.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 7 hours ago
Of course I'm talking about the information entertainment system. Not the main Can bus that is handling breaking or whatever...
tabular@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
People have been able to change their own brake pads for as long as cars existed.
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 17 hours ago
There are two things hidden here:
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
the entertainment system should have zero access to anything that controls the movement of the car. androidauto apps can’t implement self driving functions either. if it’s possible, the car manufacturer was incredibly irresponsible and needs to be sued into oblivion. see, the actual problem is not that irresponsible users could implement “self driving apps”, but that the entertainment system lacks any real security, is filled with vulnerabilities, and often even have remote access capabilities with bluetooth/wifi/cellular, and bad actors could load malware wirelessly that would kill the passengers and whoever else on the road.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Not only is is possible, there are many CAN bus attacks from the entertainment system I’ve seen over the years. That, along with your noted remote attacks makes modern cars a nightmare. It doesn’t help that manufacturers cheap out on basic protections to save a few bucks (see the Hyundai boys and the lack of an installed engine interlock).
nyan@lemmy.cafe 17 hours ago
Lacking government regulation in the largest markets, proper separation will never be enforced, because it isn’t to the manufacturers’ benefits. And that probably isn’t going to happen until hacked infotainment systems kill enough people to draw attention, unfortunately.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Why are you assuming that the infotainment center in a car can take over steering at all?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
People have totally gotten killed from maintenance done by a “professional” (new kid on the job at the shop.)
I watch YouTuber CarCareNut and he’s shown many stupid mistakes made by dealerships.
I assure you I take greater care doing repairs than a tech who will get yelled at if they don’t finish the job fast.
tabular@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
If saftey is your concern I hope you do not blindly trust manufacturers given their history of “safety and security”. My concern is software freedom: being in control of your own computing (instead of the creator being in control). All software has bugs, but at least 3rd party software isn’t intentionally adding anti-features and spyware.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
He’s at least right on the front that physical maintenance is easier to do right and be understandable to your avg person due to its higher barrier of entry.
Digital lower barrier of entry if you can just side load apps means that some real dumb shit will be done that can cause way more problems.
Both of the possibility of killing people. But physical is harder to fuck up if for no other reason then you can see or feel it’s wrong.
Digital is already a problem with distracted drivers. Let’s not make it easier.