It’s a shame that Nostr’s brand is tainted by its community in a lot of people’s eyes, there’s a lot to like about it as a protocol and as a free software project that is independent from that stuff.
Definitely a good technology overrun with cultists. Better content curation tools & more users will fix it
Heads up, I sometimes post screenshots of replies like this as examples of how nostr looks to outsiders, because those cultists act confused about why no one joins
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
OpenStars@piefed.social 1 day ago
Tbh I think of Lemmy in the same terms. Like, people contemplating coming here from e.g. Reddit could block all the anti-Western propaganda (e.g. calling for actual murder against us), and find some pools of content that are halfway worthwhile… but like, why would they bother? For the ideological purity of not contributing to enshittification? Anyone who thinks that way is already here though.
Whether facing “leftist” tankies on Lemmy or “conservative” right-wingers on Nostr, mainstream non-technical normie users are going to just nope right out of either.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If you avoid one or two instances you rarely encounter tankies on Lemmy.
OpenStars@piefed.social 1 day ago
Almost no instances defederate from Lemmy.ml. And I had accounts on multiple instances that federated with both lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net. None of that was explained anywhere, we early adopters just had to figure it out.
And who tells new people to avoid Lemmy.ml in the first place? That join Lemmy website that “randomly” picks an instance for you has even selected it for me, as well as hexbear.net.
Face it: we are a Nazi bar. Yes it’s possible to walk through the crowd of Nazis at the front door to our corner of the room where it’s cool, but I understand if my Jewish friends will refuse to accept my invitations, seeing who they will encounter on the way over.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Fair, I’m not sure what the solution would be though, even if you explicitly want to optimize for getting as many people as possible using decentralized social media regardless of their politics or cultural preference.
OpenStars@piefed.social 1 day ago
If you want an abortion, but your neighbor is willing to fully, literally, and actually kill you for attempting to get one, then how do you get along? Indeed…
The above example is auth-right, while tankies are auth-left. The common denominator is the auth part. You either give in and do whatever the other side wants, or… you do not do that.
Platforming the auth-left seems similar to trying to get people to join Reddit. Either way you are helping someone else feed forward their agenda, which will ultimately arrive at a bad ending.
I do note that PieFed is building an entirely new future, neither platforming tankies nor seeking profits to the exclusion of all else. I am putting my hopes into it.
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Honestly normies shouldn’t even be on the internet
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What’s stoping you from creating leftist hotspots in Nostr ?
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
The fundamental architectural decisions are stupid in precisely the way all libertarian projects are and make healthy behavior maladaptive for potentially toxic agents that might otherwise remain relatively innocous.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
You think those are gonna convince anyone?
iloveDigit@piefed.social 13 hours ago
They can either be convinced or embarrass themselves ignoring evidence. Either way, proving a statement is ridiculous is proving it
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
How is ignoring evidence embarrassing? To you perhaps, to me certainly. But why would it embarrass them?
iloveDigit@piefed.social 11 hours ago
A better word is it completely crushes their souls and makes their final moments unimaginably miserable, but that’s heavier to type out so just “embarrassment” for shorthand works
morto@piefed.social 1 day ago
Did you say screenshot? I better fix the typing errors and dress my finest clothes!