Sorry, the absence of god isn’t a hole. It means being a moral person for rational reasons and not because some author of a fairy tale, who also say things like “it’s cool to kill some people”, said so. Even if it ‘was a hole’, filling it with proper education is far superior in all respects.
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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 20 hours agoAtheism is no way, it’s intellectually lazy, and cowardly fence-sitting that leads to/reinforces hedonistic nihilism and moral relativism. Atheism is the way like suicide is, and mostly something fall into by default, or emotional pain, or the need to feel unwatched and unaccountable so one can do nonsense, not some sort of “transcendental wisdom” that Europe came up with, lol. Even for Nietzsche, this is a tragedy (because he’s not a dummy!) without precedent, and something that needs to be corrected ASAP. If God is dead in the West, something needs to fill the God-shaped hole. Ideally, it’s God, but evidently it hasn’t been for ages (if some form of righteous monotheism even “trickled down” from Roman Catholicism to begin with!) and the results in their societies (amoral and selfish “get the bag” mentality, sexual depravity that’s applauded and openly talked about and taken as virtue/lightly, people living by inertia and for pleasure because they have no purpose nor do they even care to think about it, the “loneliness epidemic”, etc etc.) are very noticeable.
Encephalotrocity@feddit.online 20 hours ago
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
and this is the first time I’ve seen someone argue that following a religion is NOT the intellectually lazy thing to do. Amazing
It’s kind of wild… But I used to listen to atheist call in shows, and you’d be shocked about some of the things these people try to argue.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
You can’t science/big brain yourself into morals, you either believe in it or not (again, check Hume’s fork and the is-ought problem, the wise men in your tribe already talked about this!). And it’s not about believing in tales, but finding yourself in/agreeing the words of the prophets (like their moral lessons) enough that you start considering the background ideology of what they’re saying and then one day you’re a well-read God fearing man.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
I think believing things without evidence is intellectually lazy. Atheism is the default position. I only believe in one less god than you.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
What is the “evidence” behind moral stances?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 hours ago
For me it’s at least partially based on mutual aid, something that we also see in nature. Helping other people helps me.
That said, I’m not sure why you’re so convinced that morals need to be based on anything. I have empathy, that means I don’t want harm to come to others. It’s really that simple.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Of course you do, you were made that way, we all were! Religion/belief in a set of principles in an axiomatic, non debatable way just provide good guidance, a handrail in case your eyes get too big and, idk, you end up president of the free world and Raytheon wants to bribe you and you want a new yacht so you push for war in a far away land. Our nature can only go so far, for the rest of the time you will need a code and something to keep you accountable to it that’s bigger and outside of yourself, and Abrahamic monotheism helps us do that.