Comment on Are we deprogramming empathy in the US?

• ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Atheism is no way, it’s intellectually lazy, and cowardly fence-sitting that leads to/reinforces hedonistic nihilism and moral relativism. Atheism is the way like suicide is, and mostly something fall into by default, or emotional pain, or the need to feel unwatched and unaccountable so one can do nonsense, not some sort of “transcendental wisdom” that Europe came up with, lol. Even for Nietzsche, this is a tragedy (because he’s not a dummy!) without precedent, and something that needs to be corrected ASAP. If God is dead in the West, something needs to fill the God-shaped hole. Ideally, it’s God, but evidently it hasn’t been for ages (if some form of righteous monotheism even “trickled down” from Roman Catholicism to begin with!) and the results in their societies (amoral and selfish “get the bag” mentality, sexual depravity that’s applauded and openly talked about and taken as virtue/lightly, people living by inertia and for pleasure because they have no purpose nor do they even care to think about it, the “loneliness epidemic”, etc etc.) are very noticeable.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think believing things without evidence is intellectually lazy. Atheism is the default position. I only believe in one less god than you.

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    • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What is the “evidence” behind moral stances?

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For me it’s at least partially based on mutual aid, something that we also see in nature. Helping other people helps me.

        That said, I’m not sure why you’re so convinced that morals need to be based on anything. I have empathy, that means I don’t want harm to come to others. It’s really that simple.

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  • Encephalotrocity@feddit.online ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sorry, the absence of god isn’t a hole. It means being a moral person for rational reasons and not because some author of a fairy tale, who also say things like “it’s cool to kill some people”, said so. Even if it ‘was a hole’, filling it with proper education is far superior in all respects.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      and this is the first time I’ve seen someone argue that following a religion is NOT the intellectually lazy thing to do. Amazing

      It’s kind of wild… But I used to listen to atheist call in shows, and you’d be shocked about some of the things these people try to argue.

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    • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can’t science/big brain yourself into morals, you either believe in it or not (again, check Hume’s fork and the is-ought problem, the wise men in your tribe already talked about this!). And it’s not about believing in tales, but finding yourself in/agreeing the words of the prophets (like their moral lessons) enough that you start considering the background ideology of what they’re saying and then one day you’re a well-read God fearing man.

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