Comment on Dell and Lenovo may limit mid-range laptops to 8GB DDR5 RAM in response to rising memory prices

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Im really surprised Microsoft hasn’t already come out with a chrome-os like neutered version of windows specifically for this.

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• phaedrus@piefed.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Seems to me like there will be a split. A lot of critical thinkers that are frugal will move to Linux and up its market-share, but there will also be a lot of deals that companies make with cloud computing platforms as well for their employees instead of purchasing new laptops (which will probably also allow them to cut back on their IT staff).

  Those that are still lost when it comes to tech from 20 years ago will also buy into cloud compute platforms just because they use it at work and can’t be arsed to learn something slightly different.

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  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, this could spell the end for local installs of Microsoft office. Gdocs and o365 for everyone. Not sure if thats a win or loss.

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    • phaedrus@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I see it wholly as a loss, because it starts to get people used to the idea of subscriptions for anything and everything, and Microsoft will be right there on the front lines taking advantage of the new revenue stream (so losing local installs won’t hurt them at all and is what they’re going for).

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  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wonder how long it will take before people realize it’s cheaper to own your own hardware than lease compute time from a cloud provider? I’ve seen this same cycle with cloud VMs, I expect this will be no different.

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    • phaedrus@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They won’t, ever. Not the general public, at least. Most are still perfectly content and onboard with paying for 10 different streaming services for music/movies/TV. Only immediate numbers mean anything, and $5/mo is better than $10 once, simply because 10 is larger than 5. Plus, look at all this extra shit I didn’t want that is included!

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    • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      With cloud computing you get someone (or at least some entity) to blame when things go wrong which apparently has some value too. Also, if you don’t need a lot of resources cloud can be cheaper than setting up whole infrastructure by yourself, but that has a ton of variables. Plus with cloud there’s often option for colocation/high availability/ddos protection and other stuff around which can be pretty expensive to build yourself.

      Obviously if you try to shoehorn your current modrate sized esx/hyper-v/whatever environment to the cloud as is, that’s going to be expensive.

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      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Obviously if you try to shoehorn your current modrate sized esx/hyper-v/whatever environment to the cloud as is, that’s going to be expensive.

        Yeah, my experience has been in the MSP space for small to medium companies. We’ve had tons of customers forego upgrading local hardware to go to a cloud provider, then have to do it in reverse a few years later when they realize they’ve already paid out the cost of their hardware and licensing agreement in hosting costs, and still have to keep paying to run the same systems.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Windows 11 can run on 4GB. That’s the minimum for the listed requirements, and the other day, I saw Best Buy selling a 4GB model, and I see some systems for sale online. I would imagine that it’s not ideal.

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  • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Even on an 8gb or 16gb system Windows uses over 4gb on a fresh boot. At 4gb it’s going to be swapping to fish non-stop. The disk will be thrashed and be dead in a year of use.

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  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Windows 11 can run on 4GB

    That ‘can’ does a hell of a lot of heavy lifting. But then again, it says Windows can run in 4GB, it doesn’t say anything about your apps.

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  • christmas_cavalier@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have seen a few of them. Yes they are bad. Basically idles at 85% memory usage on the desktop with nothing open.

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    • ptu@sopuli.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Windows going Vista again

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Windows 11 for me boots using around 7GB. Open a heavy browser tab or two and you’re page thrashing next. I can’t use a computer like that.

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If I recall that 4GB min on win11 is explictedly with no applications. Including browsers.

    It’s only the os.

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