OpenAI isn‘t very good in any of those categories and they still have no business model. Subscriptions would have to be ridiculously high for them to turn a profit. Users would just leave. But to be fair that goes for all AI companies at the moment. None of their models can do what they promise and they‘re all bleeding money.
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hayvan@piefed.world 2 days agoGPT goes beyond chat, copilot code generation is also based on that. They also have generative visual stuff, like Sora.
Then there is brand recognition I guess, tech bros and finance bros seem to love OpenAI.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 days ago
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, I figured brand recognition was part of it. Everyon’e heard of ChatGPT- hell, last time I checked, ChatGPT was the number 1 app on the planet- but Claude isn’t nearly as popular, even though (in my opinion) it’s a lot better with code. It’s just a lot more thorough than the slop ChatGPT spits out
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Brand recognition cannot be overstated.
If there was a better-than-YouTube alternative right now, YouTube would still dominate.
If there was a phone OS superior to Android and iOS, they would both still dominate.
If there was a search engine that worked far better than Google, Google would still dominate.
The average person won’t look into LLM reasoning benchmarks. They’ll just use the one they know, ChatGPT.
MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
But Windows and Google can shove it in your face because you’re already on their platform and they are doing that. You have to go to openai website.
Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Youtube and android have strong network effects. I don’t think openai has anything close to comparable. They tried I am sure, I recall an app platform they added to chatgpt, but I haven’t heard of it in ages so I assume it hasn’t been a dominant factor.
I also don’t get the impression there is enough training material available exclusively to openai it’d be such a factor.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 days ago
I don’t think openAI is as well-known a Google.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 days ago
ChatGPT might be, which is the point.
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 days ago
You are comparing very well established brands to a company in a sector that is far less established. Yes, OpenAI is the most well known, but not to the degree of $300B.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
OpenAI is pretty well established.
I know Lemmy users avoid it, but a lot of people use LLMs, and when most people think LLMs, they think ChatGPT. I doubt the average person could name many or even any others.
That means whenever these people want to use an LLM, they automatically go to OpenAI.
As for to the degree of $300bn, who knows. Big tech has had crazy valuations for a long time.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I mean, it’s an easy answer to got the other 3 main ones: Gemini, copilot and MechaHitler
xartle@reddthat.com 2 days ago
I totally agree with you. In fact, I know people who use ChatGPT exclusively and don’t touch the web anymore. Who knows who will have the best models, but they are definitely capturing a lot of people early.
RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
What they know is Google though. Most normal people doing a search now just take the Gemini snippet at the top. They don’t know or care what AI even is really. I don’t know how OpenAI can possibly compete with web search defaults.