Comment on Introducing Proton Sheets

freeman@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• crank0271@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’m actually pretty excited to have another product to try to motivate friends and family to leave Google behind. Maybe this will do it.

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• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’ve managed entirely on Google Sheets for years now. And I was a really big fan of Excel. It was never viable for me to rely on Windows to be everywhere I need to be, and the functionality gap closed steadily over the years to the point where the benefits of it being on the web now overwhelm the feature gap. Being free helps too, especially as Excel has gone through various pricing and bundling contortions over the years. Someone might tell me here that it’s now completely free but can I really be blamed for tuning out Microsoft years ago?

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  • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Nobody can blame anyone but MicroShit for dumping MicroShit.

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• galaxy_nova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Genuinely what do you need in excel you can’t do anywhere else? For me sheets are just glorified visual data storage. If I need to do complex stuff I can probably do it faster in polars or pandas than I can in excel

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  • Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It’s massive in business environments. It is the lingua franca of business analysis (both back of the napkin analysis, proof of concept and more complicated/involved projects).

    It is most definitely not used merely as “glorified visual data storage”.

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  • freeman@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    There are probably a lot of programms that do aspects of Excel better. But the combined might you weild if you know how to use Excel is very powerful. I tried LibreOffice and OnlyOffice and the spreadsheet part of those office suites is the roughest one until today.

    But my comment was more about how much of our economy probably runs on Excel. And I experienced how badly Excel and for example LibreOffice Calc plays together, it makes switching very hard. A complex .xlsx is far from being rendered and calculated correctly in LibreOffice.

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    • galaxy_nova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yeah that’s fair. Many many many of my coworkers heavily rely on excel so I can understand this. I just really don’t like using it personally. It’s like vscode too much stuff thrown at me at once when I don’t need like 99%. Just let me write a script

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  • Humana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Power Query

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    • galaxy_nova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I raise you a quick SQL query. Admittedly I’m a data engineer but I hate graphical tools that abstract code away from me.

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      • Humana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        That’s wonderful you are a data engineer, but in a normal business setting most people are not. I’m the only one at my company who knows SQL exists. But everyone knows what Excel is, everyone knows at least the basics of using it. Even if I got my coworkers familiar with and writing SQL (which is a laughable thought) there are still clients.

        Data is everywhere, and Excel has been the default program for light data analysis for decades. I hate it as much as the next person, but right now it’s inescapable and irreplaceable.

        Excel/Access is literally the only reason I ever boot to Windows anymore.

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