Comment on Waiting for Capitalism to collapse, so we can get this over with so we can reverse climate change and have nice memes, technology and the good end

• NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, in this theoretical situation it would. Ignoring the fact that it’s metaphorical, it’s sort of like saying we shouldn’t build windmills or nuclear power plants because the construction produces co2

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean… maybe burning everything down would mitigate climate change. But the collapse of global supply chains would lead to billions losing access to sufficient food, clean drinking water, internet, electricity/modern heating, medicine, etc. We would see mass migrations, war, famine, disease, and ecological devastation, all on a scale never before seen in the history of humanity. Ie, all the things we are trying to stop climate change in order to avoid.

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    • witten@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is a fun thought exercise but also a total strawman argument. There are many more reasonable ways to get rid of an oil company than to burn it all down overnight. Lots of countries have demonstrated examples of phased reductions of subsidies or increases in taxes to achieve a big policy shift in specific industries. A more radical but still not pants-on-head example is to nationalize a company or industry and then slowly and responsibly unwind it until there’s nothing left.

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      • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, I 100% agree with you that there are other, better options. But those other, better options aren’t represented with a molotov.

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• Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean… in a sense it would, no? (Not that I would want that tho)

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• PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It has to get worse before it can get better.

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