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lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Musk is clearly a Nazi.

First, there’s the Nazi salute. There’s no reason to do that unless you are a Nazi.

Second, Nazis called Hitler my Furer, and he’s rewriting it this way specifically for this reason. It is an honorific title and he’s showing honor to Hitler.

Third, Musk defects from accusations he’s a Nazi (“that’s a crazy thing to say”) but he never responds by saying “What Hitler did was horrible and I’m not a Nazi and detest their ideology” which is what someone would say if not a Nazi.

The scary thing about this is Musk will soon control a large robot army. At that point, he could appoint white supremacists to lead the robot army and pick up where Hitler left off. This is a real threat for Jewish people as well as other minorities.

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CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
He’s just an edgelord. He thinks he’s funny and edgy and everyone wants to be his friend. Inside he’s a scared little boy who wants his daddy to love him but his daddy is a nazi who hates him.

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- IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  do you know that you can an edglord doing nazi shit? a nazi. no matter the motivation, he’s still a nazi.
  
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  - CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    I did know that. But I think you give him more credit of self-awareness than he has. Elon Musk is a vacuous ego with a lot of money. I don’t believe he has the depth of mind to actually hold any political ideology, for good or ill. I think he is singularly focused on being the Best Boy, and will ape anything that helps him feel that way.
    
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    IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    You make it sound as if Naziism is a political ideology and not just a hate cult. everyone who is a nazi because of self serving reasons is still a nazi, even if they are stupid or so drugged that one might question if they have any agency. they are still nazis.
    
    Most nazis are really stupid and irrational and don’t need a reason either, still nazis.
    
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- sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨45⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  He’s a lot more than that
  
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patatahooligan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Third, Musk deflects from accusations he’s a Nazi (“that’s a crazy thing to say”) but he never responds by saying “What Hitler did was horrible and I’m not a Nazi and detest their ideology” which is what someone would say if not a Nazi.

This is the most important point, IMO. Fascists who want mainstream acceptance know not to have swastika tattoos and not to openly say they love Hitler. They will always try to have some plausible deniability. Don’t get dragged into their bullshit arguments. There’s no point in debating whether the nazi salute was some other motion that was misinterpreted. Even if it was, the first thing a non-nazi would do would be to clarify that they are not a nazi and don’t want nazis to think they’re their allies. Even if Musk had completely inadvertently stumbled upon the love and support of the nazis via a series of misunderstandings (lol), at this point in time he is deliberately choosing to be part of them.

Here is Musk at 3:08:01 saying he’s not a nazi… and then going on to say you’re not a nazi unless you’re literally invading Poland and doing the holocaust. That is literally the only objectionable thing about the nazis. Not their “fashion sense or mannerisms”. Yes that was a direct quote. There is really only one type of person that would not mention as objectionable the nazi ideology or all the acts of violence that are not at the same scale as the holocaust.

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- andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  “I’m not a Nazi, I just like the esthetics of blood on a black uniform”
  
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  - vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Most people do, feeling of power or at least positive connection to someone’s feeling of power are very intoxicating. I even wonder how many 16 years old girls you knew when you were in high school. No justice or mercy there if you try to keep moral high ground and ignore that component. (I did, LOL.)
    
    The thing about Nazis is that they’ve lost, so one could get pretty believable feeling of power from their own military and patriotic aesthetic in most of the western nations and socialist bloc, while Nazis would be something of that past with fraktur lettering and stylish evil. A bit like vampires.
    
    Now, today both western and Soviet patriotic aesthetic have kinda rotten. The Soviet kind is associated with murderous madness between two strongest former members, the western kind is associated with paying 20x the right money to kill brown people in their homeland without even getting their oil in the end.
    
    While Nazis, eh, lost. So haven’t lived till now and are remembered young and cute, so to say.
    
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  - madjo@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    And all of the sycophantic muskanites love licking his boots.
    
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echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
Isn’t “Furer” just the German word for leader? I’m pretty sure the word existed before Hitler and the Nazis I don’t think they invented it.

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- IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  technically yes. but no. it clearly means leader with nazi connotations. you with call a German mayor a fuhrer?
  
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