Going to college can inform, but doesn’t cure innate stupidity. And if the student is particularly willful, they can hold onto their ignorance as well.
Case in point: Trump.
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oyo@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Everyone should have to go to college. We have an epidemic of stupidity.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You are right, all the comments replying to you are making vacuous individualist arguments like ‘it won’t work every single time’, when what’s important is that ‘on average, it will raise intelligence and the ability to critically evaluate situations’.
The internet loves to just regurgitate what they heard before and only deal in absolutes, so right now it’s that they would have made more money in the trades, so suddenly college and higher education is meaningless and provided no value to them. It’s honestly embarassing how much they’re just buying into right wing propaganda.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
the easiest way to make big money in any area… is have family/connections in that area.
snooggums@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Everyone should have access to a free college education, but not everyone benefits from it and it certainly does not guarantee intelligence.
HubertManne@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
it would be better to add elementary logic as a requirement to graduate high school. I would also add a class where you have to read and present a paper in stem and political science and philosophy.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
why do you think that would do anything?
i litereally taught those subjects for 3-4 years. Trust me. for most students its just another stupid class they don’t want to take, they won’t learn anything. maybe 10% of those enrolled will actually learn anything.
I mean, how many people do you know as adults that remember how to do do an integral even those they took Calculus?
HubertManne@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Its like anything else. If you don’t have it then you drive toward zero on chance of people getting it. Its more about the opportunity to not be shit than decision to be shit. I completely get where you are coming from. I had not thought about the history and structure of the constitution I was taught in school but when I saw it violated it immediately drew alarm bells and reading through I could recall converstaions and ideas that were taught (really explained given the source document is easily obtainable). It blows my mind that anyone educated in america does not see whats happening. I mean maybe my education was better than most or something but I mean I believe a lot of the content was state mandated to be taught. Despite that I think its better to require things that are needed rather than hope people are exposed to it.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
the vast majority of ‘educated’ people in America know shit about the constitution, and most of those that do probably know wrong things.
the only people who really know much about the constitution are constitutional scholars. and even they deeply disagree about various aspects of it.
fulcrummed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not sure college fixes that.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It does. Look at Canada.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Idk, maybe we're doing alright compared to the US but we have an epidemic of stupid here too
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Everywhere does, but Canada has a post secondary education rate of ~66%, and typically votes 66% sane. America has a post secondary education rate of ~50%, and typically votes 50% sane.
There are other differences between the countries, but I think it’s impossible to argue that a substantially more educated population hasn’t led to a stabler and more thoughtful political climate.
IronBird@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
a properly designd public primary education system fixes that, the US’s was specifically designed to create compliant factory workers…then they took all the factory jobs anyway.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No. it doesn’t.
stupidity is a choice people make, regardless of how well educated they are or not.