Comment on Arguing for the car as a good method of transportation is like arguing that having personal diesel generator to power you home is a good idea

manualoverride@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That is better, but the best would be a bicycle and public transit.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Bad weather and payload capacity wants a word with you.

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For bad weather I just wear a poncho or rain clothes when bicycling. Or a shirt and plenty of water. Etc. Our bike pathes also get salted in winter.

      For payloads – most people don’t need to tow anything more than a backpack more than once or twice a year. And even then, there are bicycle bags that you can put on the back of the bike. And bike trailers as well.

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      • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Most people buy groceries more than once a year, and as soon as I wasn’t living alone that became an unreasonable quantity of groceries to transport by bike. Even before then, I was carrying them in panniers - it was always way more than would fit in a backpack.

        Cycling is great - ideal, even. But I bought a(n electric) car a year and a half ago, and now my nose wrinkles at the fuck cars mindset. The ability to take big items to the recycling centre, freedom from public transport schedules, not having to worry about falling off and breaking my instrument when riding to a music lesson - it has a lot of advantages.

        And riding in the rain is fine, and people make a bigger deal out of that and a lot of other things than they should if they haven’t tried it, but driving is an improved experience on almost all of them.

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  • manualoverride@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m going to sound like a carnivore on a Vegan sub now, but genuinely I’m disabled and not easily able to use the bike/transport options.

    Apparently 36 minutes walk away from my nearest train station if I walk on a grass verge on a 60mph road with no pavement, there is a bus but that is 28 minutes to the train station with a change of bus and 9 minute walk.

    I could probably manage the 2nd option, but not a lot else for the rest of the morning.

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t know what disability you have – but how about disability friendly bicycles? There are wheelchair bikes like in this picture

      that you can drive, and there are electric bicycles as well (which are easier to bike on.

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• JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That is not exactly the point, the point I was making is that utility like electric is a public utility provided for use, just as public transportation can be. But we are stuck in thinking about the car in that private mindset that if we apply to utility like electric is like having a diesel generator powering your home.

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