Comment on Any time you're told that the weak and vulnerable are responsible for how bad things are, rather than the rich and powerful, you're being lied to

• Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No individual is responsible for everything. But there are a disproportionately small number of individuals with a disproportionately large amount of power over a lot of things that affect a large number of people. And you can bet they talk to each other.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who are these people?

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    • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The CEOs/Presidents/Owners of major Oil companies and major food manufacturers?

      Those ones and more.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The CEOs/Presidents/Owners of major Oil companies

        Are you one of those people that blames climate change on oil manufacturers?

        major food manufacturers

        This one’s way out of left field so I think it deserves its own explanation. The hell?

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• TheRealKuni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  But the claim here is just wrong. Being rich and powerful doesn’t make them automatically accountable for everything.

  No, of course not. No one is responsible for everything.

  But, as a very quick and simplistic example of what the post is saying, if someone hates immigrants because “they took our jobs,” that person is missing the very obvious fact that employers are the ones hiring people. Immigrants can’t “force” that. And of course even that employer is responding to pressures, both systemic and from above them.

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• Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Either you are being short-sighted or disingenuous. Of course they aren’t automatically accountable for EvErYtHiNg. But they are accountable for a vastly disproportionate amount of things that affect most people’s lives. Ya know, that’s how power works.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can you name specific examples?

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    • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Actually no, this tracks. This guy is a specific example of another working class person actively fighting to protect the exploitative system – check his post history – proving it’s not just the rich doing it.

      🤔 Though this is the second thread I found him in today, and not the first time I’ve seen him do it on Lemmy. I do wonder if he’s a genuine loyalist or if he was hired by someone to come in here and concern troll for the ruling class.

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      • yuun@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        look, those boots aren’t gonna lick themselves

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lol that 0/3 comment really set you off, huh

        It will always be true.

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    • Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can I name an example of how people in power affect others’ lives? Is this an actual question??

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• Lmaydev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Pretty much the definition of powerful right?

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, “being accountable for everything” is not the definition of powerful.

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• BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You should do some reading into complex systems analysis. No one is putting everything on any specific individual. The system we live in acts similarly to a living being. It broadly seeks to exist in perpetuity and will do what it can to see that through. In our societal system the more money you have, the more powerful you are and the powerful implement systems to further expand and entrench their power. They’re benefactors of a violent and corrupt system that runs on exploitation and they have a responsibility to dismantle it. They never will so everyone else needs to do it for them.

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